Steve Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 (edited) http://www.northernstar.com.au/news/farmers-say-bull-to-rspca/1659806/ NOEL Thompson of Coraki is left scratching his head at the latest suggested animal welfare guidelines put out by the RSPCA in respect to beef cattle. Mr Thompson, 66, has been farming all his life and runs 800 cattle at Coraki and North Woodburn, ably supported by his kelpie Tessie. The suggested guidelines from the RSPCA have included the muzzling of working dogs and banning them from working in yards. I'd like to know who at the RSPCA makes these guidelines up and if they've ever been out on a farm. "In the yard (Tessie) is just as good as two to three people," Mr Thompson said. "She's gentle with the cattle and the only time she will bite is if a cow gives attitude and even then it's just a quick nip." Mr Thompson put Tessie through her paces, showing how placidly the cattle let themselves be directed by the kelpie. "I'd like to know who at the RSPCA makes these guidelines up and if they've ever been out on a farm," he said. "(Cattle) don't stress when Tessie guides and blocks them and I reckon she settles them." Mr Thompson admits to some dogs requiring muzzling and that happens at dog trials and on farms where required. "They are isolated cases. We shouldn't all be lumped in together," he said. Another guideline by the RSPCA which has cattle operators dumbfounded is that 'cattle and calves are not consigned through saleyards'. George & Fuhrmann managing director and cattle auctioneer Darren Perkins said animal welfare was a very important part of their business. "The livestock that we handle and sell through saleyards are treated well as animal welfare (is) top of our list," he said. Mr Perkins said to lose the saleyards would be one of the biggest hits to the industry. "It's all right to say the abattoirs can handle it but not all cattle (is) suited to go to that market, with many people breeding for the very good store markets that are specialised for the saleyard system," he said. "Do you want farmers or do you just want to bring in all the diseases the rest of world has to provide?" Edited December 15, 2012 by Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Does this mean they will want to ban yard dog trials, where yard work is showcased? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted December 15, 2012 Author Share Posted December 15, 2012 Maybe make em wear a muzzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaCharlie Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 It scares me to think of the implications for the Aussie cattle industry if their dogs cannot be used effectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyosha Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 What a joke. Seriously, what a way for RSPCA to try and lose any shreds of credibility they may have left. Dear oh dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 What a bloody joke, they allow the transport of cattle and sheep all over the world, they are trucked around this country in the heat with no water and sent to slaughter houses where they are driven with prodders and the RSPCA is worried about working dogs giving a nip. No one likes a working dog that is hard on the stock, it makes the stock fearful and hard to move around. Be buggered if I want to get into the yard with the sheep and cattle and do the job of the dogs. If a nip here and there is required, so be it. Yet more dribble from the RSPCA and people continue to support them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffyluv Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 That is exactly what I was thinking when I was reading it Pav.. The livestock suffer more at the hands of humans than they do being round up by working dogs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Are You Serious Jo Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 (edited) I had a look at the original article but there doesn't seem to be a source, any idea where this originated within the rspca? Think I've found it. Yep, no dogs in yards, much better to get people in there with prodders Edited December 15, 2012 by Reverend Jo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christina Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I know where the muzzles should be used. It all gets more & more ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Are You Serious Jo Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 People already use muzzles on dogs that grab. They also say no prodders but they'll get used anyway because you don't just ask cattle to move and they do. Dogs are classified under harmful implements, their words! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 (edited) They have absolutely NFI. What a load of shit. Those of us who raise livestock do not allow them to be traumatised,injured etc. It is in our best interests to have healthy quietly managed animals that are not traumatised. Unless they have an idea about stock and working them they should piss off and shuffle papers in their office. I don't use prodders - my choice - but in some circumstances they are used for safety. They need to be made accountable for their idiocracy. Next it will be limiting how long a dog can work in a day/ week etc s So bloody infuriating!!!!!!! Edited December 15, 2012 by OSoSwift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 That's a big blow for the industry and for working dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Are You Serious Jo Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 It's really begun now, showing, working, sport. Get ready for the generic dog that you are only allowed to walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inevitablue Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 OMG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasels Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 WTF O.o I hope common sense appears somewhere along the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJaq Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 It's really begun now, showing, working, sport. Get ready for the generic dog that you are only allowed to walk. Sounds to me like the RSPCA are getting ready to phase out dog ownership, just like PETA has been advocating :p So far I am only kidding but if people who do not even own, not to mention have ever worked these animals or even seen one up close before get to make up the rules then I am sure they can find reasons that sound good on paper. Are any of the RSPCA head honchos in any way associated with PETA? :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Are You Serious Jo Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 It's really begun now, showing, working, sport. Get ready for the generic dog that you are only allowed to walk. Sounds to me like the RSPCA are getting ready to phase out dog ownership, just like PETA has been advocating :p So far I am only kidding but if people who do not even own, not to mention have ever worked these animals or even seen one up close before get to make up the rules then I am sure they can find reasons that sound good on paper. Are any of the RSPCA head honchos in any way associated with PETA? :p One effective way to make change is to get into positions of power so I wouldn't be surprised to find PETA supporters in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixeduppup Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 (edited) OH that's just bullshit. The dog would be rendered freakin' useless. Edited December 16, 2012 by mixeduppup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indigirl Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 It's really begun now, showing, working, sport. Get ready for the generic dog that you are only allowed to walk. Or maybe push along in a pram.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Are You Serious Jo Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 They'll probably decide that dogs have a limit of how far they should walk so it isn't as far fetched as you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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