Pippa Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I would be willing to bet that the breeder's vet did not say sending on at 4 weeks is okay. Dealing with bite inhibition of an 8 week old raised carefully from an excellent breeder is still quite a handful. Can't imagine what it will be like with a 4 week old from a breeder with very little care or experience Agree with you SO much !! Very few vets would tell their clients to rehome pups at 4 weeks old !! Can I mildly suggest that you read the OP's Post #5 :) :) Can I mildly suggest it is still NOT OK to rehome at 6 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I would be willing to bet that the breeder's vet did not say sending on at 4 weeks is okay. Dealing with bite inhibition of an 8 week old raised carefully from an excellent breeder is still quite a handful. Can't imagine what it will be like with a 4 week old from a breeder with very little care or experience Agree with you SO much !! Very few vets would tell their clients to rehome pups at 4 weeks old !! Can I mildly suggest that you read the OP's Post #5 :) :) Can I mildly suggest it is still NOT OK to rehome at 6 weeks. Yes, you can. It is NOT OK to rehome at 6 weeks, but you were both talking about the vet saying it was okay to rehome at 4 weeks, when the OP had corrected that. Who's to say that the breeder wasn't telling porkies to try to get the puppies out? Or as originally suggested, she is inexperienced and panicking? She may be a very good person just ill advised or she may be a BYB of the worst kind. None of us knows, which is why I suggested many posts back that, if at all possible, the OP visits her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wundahoo Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I would be willing to bet that the breeder's vet did not say sending on at 4 weeks is okay. Dealing with bite inhibition of an 8 week old raised carefully from an excellent breeder is still quite a handful. Can't imagine what it will be like with a 4 week old from a breeder with very little care or experience Agree with you SO much !! Very few vets would tell their clients to rehome pups at 4 weeks old !! Can I mildly suggest that you read the OP's Post #5 :) :) Yes you can, and I did, along with post #1 Can I mildly repeat that very few vets would tell their clients to rehome pups at 4 weeks. One would assume that the "breeder" would seek the vet's advice before they did this and so it's 99.99% probable that they would be told that it was not acceptable to rehome at 4 weeks or even at 6 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I had to take a rescue pup away from her mother at 4 weeks... but I took another smallish pup from the same litter to be company for her while her condition improved. This was on vet recommendation - but he would never have said it was OK to send any pup off to a new home at that age... I've had the pleasure of taking on a litter of nine 4 week old pups that had been dumped at the pound also... thank dog for my older dogs being such great foster aunties. That litter was probably the most temperamentally balanced bunch I've ever had... *grin* Rehoming single pups to new homes really shouldn't be done until they are socially ready for it... which in a lot of cases may be 8 weeks... and in some cases even older. T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertDobes Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I'd be cutting my losses and walking away from getting one of these pups. T. yes you'll get that lost money back in breeder support anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espinay2 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Whe states like NSW and VIC regulate the age at which pups can be sold and specify not before 8 weeks of age, I don't believe there is any State legislation/regulation in Qld in this regard. Therefore reporting is not likely to have the same effect as it might elsewhere as there is nothing concrete in terms of rules to report against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hankodie Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) Hi OP, I know there are lots of responses already but I just wanted to add mine. Please reconsider getting a pup from a registered, reputable breeder that does all necessary health tests. I have a golden retriever pup, he's around 8 months now and I spent quite a bit of time researching breeders. Many I spoke to were great and happy to answer any and all questions. My pup's parents were health tested including hip and elbows as well as eye, heart and ichytosis (sp?). Goldens are prone to hip and elbow issues so buying from a reputable breeder who health tests all of their dogs can potentially save you heaps of money on vet bills in the future. At the very least you have the comfort of knowing that you have the details of your puppy's lineage on hand. A reputable breeder will also lend support, my breeder is wonderful I emailed her just the other day with a question about my puppy and she was more than happy to give me some advice. In terms of the difference between breeds, I'm obviously biased but before we got Hank I was deciding between a golden or a labrador. We ultimately settled on a golden after meeting my puppy's sire. He had the most wonderful, gentle temperament and I fell in love instantly. My suggestion to you would be meet as many labs and goldens as you can, dog shows are a good place to do this (I've never been to one myself but I'm sure someone could give you some advice on where to find one). Good luck! :) Edited February 10, 2014 by hankodie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I still would urge the OP to maybe consider a young adult rescue Golden... Goldie Rescue have some awesome dogs, and they match families really well... you wouldn't be disappointed... T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boronia Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) You may like to contact the GR club Qld about rescue Goldies--> http://www.grcq.org.au/Rescue.html or some of these are available for adoption at Golden Arc Rescue Qld http://gara.org.au/a...ilable-goldens/ Willow looks kinda 'Special' :laugh: Available Goldens OLLIE - ADOPT ME! NARLA - *IN GARA CARE* BAXTER - *ON TRIAL* SALLY - ADOPT ME! JEMMA - ADOPT ME! WILLOW - PEND Edited February 10, 2014 by Boronia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hankodie Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Oh my god... I want to adopt them all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Oh my god... I want to adopt them all! Glutton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hankodie Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Oh my god... I want to adopt them all! Glutton :laugh: every inch of my house is already covered in golden retriever fur, what difference would a few more goldies make? Also, you would never be sad with all of those happy faces around every day. Yes... yes, I think I have a winning argument here. Surely I can convince the SO. Wish me luck DD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Oh, so you really might be getting another. Good luck, indeed. Love your new signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaCC Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 (edited) Oh my god... I want to adopt them all! Glutton :laugh: every inch of my house is already covered in golden retriever fur, what difference would a few more goldies make? Also, you would never be sad with all of those happy faces around every day. Yes... yes, I think I have a winning argument here. Surely I can convince the SO. Wish me luck DD Completely off topic but OMG Hankodie your signature is gorgeous! Back on topic, I feel like the OP may of been scared off Edited February 11, 2014 by LisaCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Completely off topic but OMG Hankodie you signature is gorgeous! Ha ha ha, Snap LisaCC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Back on topic, I feel like the OP may of been scared off I'm not surprised. Some of the posts would scare off the most committed of persons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaCC Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Yes, I think they were understanding quite quickly, not one of those that ask for advice and then not take it. People repeating the same thing doesn't really help. If you're still reading OP, best of luck with finding a pup. If you need to wait it's worth it for that perfect pup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hankodie Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 (edited) Thanks guys! I made it while procrastinating a bit this morning :laugh: DD, would love another golden but I think we'd have to wait until our current furries are older, plus with Odie's health condition I don't think it would be the right time. I definitely would love to adopt an older golden or lab one day though! Yes LisaCC, I hope we didn't scare her off It's a lot of info to take on board, I can understand how it would be overwhelming. Edited February 11, 2014 by hankodie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Please Cheys, run from this "breeder". As a registered breeder of many years, I can never understand why people are breeding dogs without papers. The only reasons which occur to me are greed or lack of will to do the right thing. There may be other reasons. They may not really understand that their work of 4 months is going to be your pet for 10+ years. Labs and goldens are very different. I personally prefer goldens. I have breeder friends, and all their puppy sales are successful, the dogs fitting seamlessly into the family. Labs are great too but they are not interchangeable with goldens. What makes a good dog is firstly, hereditary factors ... parents and grand-parents and so on with great health, marvellous temperaments and good looks. Then there is the testing of the parents - whatever tests are appropriate for the breed - I think with goldens it is hips, elbows, and eyes and hearts. Next, there is the mother ... a nice mellow girl with good habits, a love of people and the will to please, as well as a calm and friendly nature - AND, most importantly - good nerve. The stud dog should be as good as possible, and the breeder should know him, and a few of his ancestors. And both parents should have the temperament described in the breed standard of excellence for that breed. Or close to it. Then the raising of the pups - they should be left with mother to get on with it, with weaning beginning at 3 - 4 weeks, depending on the maturity of the litter. Weaning may take a little time, with mum stepping in to provide a little supplementary feeding, and some adult company. When the pups are fully weaned, at around 6 weeks they will have been introduced to various different things, handled all over (and some breeders may have done specific handling which is said to increase the learning ability of the pups). As they grow, their horizons should widen too - just in the home and garden. Other dogs who are good with pups should play with them, if possible, but never frighten or threaten. At 6 - 8 weeks, depending on a whole heap of things, the pups should be vac and vet checked, and left to play together, and with other mature friends until sale time, which at my house - could be anywhere from 8 -12 weeks; again, depending on maturity and when I think they are ready to leave home. When they are sold, they are bright, friendly, happy, inquisitive little souls. They have experienced housework, gardening, car rides, and have the idea about the grass being the puppy toilet. They greet all new experiences with joy and delight. They are not easily frightened - but they have the sense to run from dangerous objects - thus the laundry trolley is nothing, but the ride on is a big scary dragon, and little pups leave quickly before they are gobbled up. Pups have learned bite inhibition, through socialisation with their siblings, and perhaps some bigger dogs, they will also have learned how to behave from their mother. And she will have passed on her calm sensible temperament. None of this can be done in 4 weeks. What you should be paying a little more for is the better breeding, looks and temperament of the parents -- which is so important - the health checks on the parents, and the expertise of the breeder. There is a huge difference, in my experience, in expertise between a breeder of 12 months and 12 years!! Usually!! And then, when you take your healthy, happy, child friendly, outgoing puppy home, it is up to you to bring out the best in it by consistent and careful handling, and consistent training. That's how you get a good dog!! Good luck, please do go to someone who is registered. Ask them how long they have been breeding, whether they are registered breeders, how long they have had the breed. Talk to them to find out what they are like, and how they feel about the pups. Some are better than others, pick a good one. I don't breed goldens, but PM me if you think I can help. :) Incidentally, even with health checks, the dog may have some problems, but you can bet if there are problems, they will be fewer than with a dog whose parents have had no health checks. This pup will go to someone who hasn't been on dogzonline, and to someone who loves it. Perhaps to someone who will spend thousands on health problems because they didn't know any better, but whatever happens, that pup will have a good home. If you buy this pup, you could worry about the others in the litter and where they go - but you wont - so don't worry about that one either. Here is some puppy interaction. Different breeders, both well brought up and socialised, and not sold U. 8 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasareina Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I actually thought that considering the (historically controversial) topic that the responses on this thread were friendly and helpful, which is great to see just my 2 cents worth :) I hope Chey hasn't been scared off - I have gotten a lot of really helpful advice from this forum which I'm sure the OP will come to appreciate once she does get a puppy ... plus I really want to see goldie/lab puppy photos :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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