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Raw meat????? yucky I am a vego and have enough issues with some of the cooked meat! I am looking for something with a bit of weight in it for throwing! Have found something that works well but is rather bad for them (Good Os) Mind you they are working VERY well for them as they have never had 'junk' before!

Reckon if you join Croydon and train her that you will be wanting to keep her!

I reckon a pet home that understands Borders will be fine for her.

Thanks Piper! It is the penning bit that I would have liked more practice at.

How are the touch footy boots for comfort though?? I buggered up my achilles tendon doing agility so have to be careful with support etc.

I just got some hiking boots from Athletes Foot for agility, herding and obedience. They were not cheap so had better be good. They were nice and warm this morning when I trained.

All the Lab people. They kind insulted various breeds in return! And people that take dogs to groomers got a bit of a slagging off too!

Yeah but it hasn't been a problem before so don't know if it is a factor. This was actually the first time she has every broken a drop stay. And she technically didn't actually break it as her belly didn't come off the ground. But once she was upset, she went to bits. I've spent the weekend checking leadership etc and everything seems to be in place. It could just be a once off and I fretting over nothing!

So did you cry when the puppies went.....

Sooooo whether or not herding has anything to do with it, I now have a problem with stays. Very hard to train with a reactive dog without upsetting the other dogs! But you need to train with the other dogs to get past it. I could stay in close proximity but a friend that was watching and I both thought that made her worse on the weekend. In hindsight I probably should have just removed her. I did some stays with her and her brother yesterday that went well. Interestingly I was just watching the dogs on their beds. Poppy appeared scared to get on the bed next to Brock. She wanted to get on the bed but was looking at Brock, looking at me and squeaking, going and licking my old dog. She wouldn't get on the bed until I called her (from inside), Brock did give her a bit of a glare but left her when I told him to. They didn't appear comfortable and Poppy fussed and her and Fern have now swooped beds and everyone is happy.

Next weekend! I have only had 1 lesson doing PT stuff so don't hold out much hope. Think I will view it as a training day rather than a trial.

You are in trouble LP! Since I had the puppy cuddles and puppy breath sniff, I am really clucky!!! I have been told to control myself but it has been a year since I got a pet....... The world is conspiring against me too as Poppy's breeder has a new litter. Control.....I must control myself.....

She is 18 months old. She started doing it at around 1 yo. This is the first time that she has reacted during a stay exercise. About 2 weeks ago I noticed that her sit stay was getting a bit dodgy, lots of front feet moving up and down, so I have been working on that. Prior to that she had solid stays. I try to avoid the snapping in the first place by keeping some distance and asking her to focus on me. If she looks at a look with evil intent and I ask her to leave it and she does then I treat her. If she moves into a lunge then I go to using an arrr leave it. I then might do a focus and treat that. We also tried time outs, so she lost me if she tried to resource guard.

That is pretty much what I have been doing Cosmolo. The second I stop controlling things though she is back to it. So I can work with another dog for 5-10 mins. Have them passing each other, sitting side by side etc. Poppy is focused on me. Then me and the other owner might relax and have a chat about the training and she is straight back to snapping at the other dog. The only dog she didn't snap at that day was an equally snappy border collie!! They just gave each other a couple of side ways glances. So on lead it is manageable. Off lead at a distance of 6 meters is a bit of a problem. I did think that the GSD started it but it was me that got in trouble. Interestingly one of the quiet dogs that I worked with also had a go at the GSD. And this dog didn't react at all when Poppy snapped at him.

Lots of extremely knowledgeable have seen her and the response is usually 'that is weird'. Ummm it was me that said that the behavior what present prior to the herding so you aren't telling me anything that I didn't know. Trying to make me feel like a moron is really not helping the situation.

She has a very good stop and is following my instructions whilst herding. I went and stood between her and the GSD.

Poppy is past the coral stage. She is at the out in a paddock stage. "How does this occur? Does he have multiple dogs out training at the one time? confused.gif" Not sure why you think this?? Dogs as in dogs at various times not all at once.

About to do PT and have have trained a tiny bit of Started stuff. So not far. Haven't spoken to the herding instructor yet. When she has bossed other dogs at training they have just laughed at her. It was the herding instructor that called her the fun police. I should add that the dogs that she tells off don't tend to go back at her. They mostly just back off so she she gets lots of wins. The herding instructor did say that she was very 'strong'. But in a all dogs free and at home situation she is fairly submissive. She is the bottom of the pack here. But when she is out and in work mode she will tell Brock off. At home he bosses her.

Prior to starting herding Poppy tended to the snappy border collie girl. It seems to be a resource guarding issue with me & my bag. Since starting herding she is much worse. She stalks, lunges and snaps at any dog that comes with a couple of meters of us. If the dogs back off she is happy, if they even offer play behavior she is not happy. She does not display body language to indicate either fear or dominance aggression. She shows 'herding' body language. This is all controllable on lead. However it is now effecting sit & down stays. She has been looking increasingly unhappy in sit stays. Yesterday a young GSD was staring at her in the down stay and she was very unhappy. She had a snap at him. She was displaying very unhappy, nervy behavior but I am now thinking that she was in conflict as she wanted to go tell him off but knew that she had to stay put. So I think she was upset less because she was scared of the dog then that she wanted badly to tell him off. We let the dogs off at the end of class and she was mainly interested in 'herding' the dogs up rather than playing with them. I got home and put her in a stay next to my other dog and she was unhappy about that too! She has always been very intense and someone described her as the fun police. Not sure how to tackle this issue. Any thoughts?

My border collie, Poppy, does it too. There is no malice in it. She only does it when very happy. She got my finger accidentally yesterday and was very upset about it.

I have Clean Run and a GD DVD to get me through a weekend of no training. I am sad. Very very sad

I take Polarmine at night to go sleepies. I guess some dogs are just not competition dogs. My border Brock is very not typical of a border. He is super soft which makes training interesting. I still do agility with him as he seems to enjoy the outing. He is even a bit funny about going for walks. But he is the most lovely pet and is a firm favorite at dog school as he is such a smooch and is friends with everyone. I have never purchased any dog to do sports. I have borders as they are my fav breed so figure I need to keep them busy. If they don't want to do a sport then I don't push it. I am more interested in training too then competing. I would be happy to never go to a comp. But I love lessons, clinics etc

What I want doesn't really come into it They have stopped back chaining like that, don't know why. Not that I think it is the issue as she popped straight into 2o2o when the A frame was lower. I don't have very coordinated border collies

ness - all out of my control. Kavik, she is running down the a frame too fast to stop at the bottom. So she is doing her nose touches with all feet on the ground. I can see her thinking about stopping. If I physically give her a hand to stop, she is like 'thanks mum'. She isn't jumping off, all colour is being touched.

Poppy does GD/SG 2o2o. She lovessss doing them and is a menace when packing up the equipment as she jumps on all boards on the ground to assume the position, lol. She had trouble going down the A frame slowly enough so that she could stop with 2 feet on. It was suggested that I ask for the contact earlier, this resulted in an immediate stop and her trying to nose touch on the top of the A frame. Then a very slow downwards until she got to the bottom. Want something in between I guess. Might just be a matter of practice. She is a tad too enthusiastic on the seesaw too and hits it with so much force that she is getting bounced off! Then still trying to nose touch and I have to rescue her from being hit by the seesaw!