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Vet in Braddon for low cost desexing. Surgery looks rough round the edges, but they do great work. Ummm... Limestone Ave... Google is my friend!! Peter Burgess' clinic: http://www.cityvets.com.au/Canberra_vets/Burgess_Peter_Veterinarian/Vet/881 Was recommended to me a while back by a vet and very good surgeon friend. I have had a few rescues done there, and one community dog I helped out with after a mismating - awesome service, prices and care.

Posting on behalf of a friend and former work collegue who, with her partner, adopted the lovely "Banjo" (yard 35) from DAS last week. She asked if I could pass on her thanks to all rescuers and volunteers involved with DAS, for all their hard work in getting publicity for the DAS dogs. Banjo has completely fallen on his feet, and his new owners are completely smitten. He has been a lovely boy for them, already learning basic commands like sit, and basically melting their hearts. A pic at home:

This seems to be an informative article: http://www.greatdanelady.com/articles/knuckling_over.htm Hope your pup is ok soon.

Except that what these people were doing was in breach of how many existing laws yet they managed to hide it for how long? But making some more rules will stop them, cause of course these sort of ratbags wouldn't dream of breeding a dog without complying with all the rules... :rolleyes: Really rational and well thought out. Dear oh dear. More rules for the already compliant.

Sorry to jump backwards, but had to ask folks. This dog has a muzzle, yes/no? http://us.fotolia.com/id/31406177 And this one? Yes/no? http://www.123rf.com/photo_2252511_close-up-of-dog-face-pekinese.html One more for comparison? http://www.petshopandmore.com/pekingese-dogs.html Different muzzles to be sure, but all are still obviously pekes either way? Sorry for links, can't post pics from ipad...

Not as far as I know. I have to get on something else to do photos.

The vast majority of sighthounds won't differ if doing this or not. They don't need training, most small furry running things spark much deeper instincts than training will ever effect.

I don't think there's a limit on knowledge for many people so can't understand why they would struggle to know in depth about several breeds instead of one. I too think t's individual. I don't see an issue with people having more than one breed. I think there's a definite difference in the type of people that buy one of a breed to show, f t doesn't win enough, get something else, and so on. Some people do collect dogs in this manner but I think you'd find they are rarely breeders in the usual sense, ie someone who is passionate about their breed and working as guardians of it, but folks who want more immediate results and wins. People like this tend to move through different hobbies as well.

This sounds really good.

Fantastic post Nic. :)

Or, label is here if you want to print a copy. http://services.apvma.gov.au/PubcrisWebClient/label/47737.pdf

Sorry! Meant to look this up last night for you! Just rang OH and got him to read it out. Dogs - maintenance, 1-3g - small 1g, medium 2g, large 3g. Stress double that, so 2-6.

There are additional issues with the sole use of lure (or even live) coursing to test sighthound ability. Coursing is a sport and ability in the coursing field does not always align with hunting ability. Coursing is scored upon the chase. Hounds that outwit the lure, cut corners and catch it mid field receive low scores as the aim is to chase the lure on the wide sweeping course. To succeed at coursing there is no required ability to actually catch something. So you could take a native hunting sighthound breed like the Hortaya Borzaya, which is still purpose bred as a family based hunting dog, and they may fail miserably on the coursing field. But they will no doubt succeed in their function of feedng themselves and their families. So yes, coursing may be a good indicator of running ability and soundness, if the hound will participate. But not hunting ability. And many sighthounds that won't chase a lure, or cut corners to rapidly intercept lures on a course are the better hunters. It won't matter what the lure is made of to some dogs, they know full well it is not alive, so not worth their energy. Some have a lighter attitude and will chase it for the sheer enjoyment of running. edit for correction of ipad spelling...

I have a big tub nthe fridge at home, can look up dosage this evening after work if no ne else pops up in the meantime.

Retaliation and vengeance are socially unacceptable behaviours. That's why people don't find the concept great at all. Jumping in and behaving as badly as the original aggressor is never the right way to approach things. If that became the norm, when would it end? And who is the bad guy? Dog owner I'm very sorry for the poor way in which your dog's escape and shooting was handled. You seem to have taken a brave and commendable stance in not defending what they did or why they were shot, but it seems the manner in which that was handled was far from suitable and I feel for you having to deal with those circumstances. I hope you can find some peace.

Hopefully this place provides better service closer to the metro area. I bought from them once and that was enough, masses of wretchedly foul chicken, that had apparently been in the unrefrigerated van for nearly three days. It was like soup... We were a week off rubbish day so had little choice but to put the whole putrid mess in the freezer. Once it had all been chucked out we had to move the freezer outside and clean and bleach it due to the stink.

Huh? Where?! The pound quoted $298 (or something within that range) for a vaccinated, microchipped and registered dog. The OP then said it would cost them x amount to desex and vaccinate. I think you need to read the posts again, carefully! Apolgies Anne, you are right.

Why? Do you have something in mind?

But this dog is offered at over $400 undesexed. So your average Joe adopter is looking at another couple of hundred dollars before they are getting the same as they would get from a rescue group, and a bit more of an unknown as far as temp and behaviour goes. I'm not talking about the value inherent in rescue dogs with vetwork done, who have been in foster etc, or the merits or otherwise of pound dogs, but about pounds pricing their dogs out of the rescue/adoption market. Why should an adopter go and buy a dog from the pound if this is the case? Are pounds selling themselves short?

I think part of Muttrus' point has fallen by the wayside here. Does a cost that high put people off adopting from a pound or shelter? I would say it probably does...

I was just reading it too K9angel. You would hope there are some more reputable zoos or organisations out there who could take on some of the animals and rehab them.

Some of my dogs have big coats, are family pets before showdogs, live life to the full and are likely better suited to their role of serving as family pets than many shortcoated pet dogs living in backyards all over the country

What an absurd sentiment.

About a little teaspoon a day, spread out over three or four doses.

The argument of judging function ends up going in circles though. Some breeds have functions that are no longer acceptable, ie the fighting and many of the hunting breeds. In some countries dogs are awarded function titles like coursing for hounds etc. But even then, when you get into detail, coursing is a very different activity to real hunting, and scored differently, so the arguments about how to correctly judge function rage on. They aren't just judged on presentation in the ring, but on form. Function should follow form. So a sighthound with a huge lovely coat, but lacking the physical attributes that would enable it to perform it's function should not win. And in all honesty, they usually don't. What the standards set out is the description of the best physical form that dog breed should have, and that physical form fits with it's function. Yes certain attributes can become more or less exaggerated sometimes according to fashions or opinions but the basic forms usually stay true. In the other current thread with links to the historical photos page you will see multiple old photos of breeds, which gives a much better impression of the breed as a whole than just one photo selected to prove someone's point. You will see that many of the breeds on there look remarkably similar. Some of the Great Danes look different to modern ones, others looks very similar. Just as we have variations in type still today I'm sure they did then, even more so. The Bull Terrier jumps out as one that has changed quite dramatically. I don't think all purebred breeding is perfect, but I think it is far from the extremist horror movie it has been made out to be in recent years.