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IW = Irish Wolfhound. ;) I was hoping there would be one here: http://www.cafepress.com/borzoigifts/8304650 But no luck sorry. Nice IW stuff, but only Borzoi calendars. It is a relatively new site though so keep an eye on it. Was originally just Zoi but branching out now into other sighthounds gifts so the range should increase with time.

The larger majority of information contained in the document consists of "guidlelines" with the enforceable "standards" only being in the shaded boxes. This Code contains both standards and guidelines for the care of dogs or cats for breeding. The standards have legal effect in three ways: Much of what folks have copied and pasted here as being of concern, comes from the "guideline" sections. Scanning through them, most are no brainers... This one is odd 6.3.1.5 Functioning fire fighting equipment must be readily available and staff trained and practised in its use. Ordinarily? A hose. These ones are a bit out there for a normal household type setup: 7.3.1.2 Animal enclosures must be disinfected at least once weekly. 7.3.1.4 Bedding must be cleaned or changed at least once daily and disinfected at least once a week. But, as with all legislation the test of reasonable-ness will apply. Obviously courts would take a very dim view of people being expected to disinfect a paddock, or a human home once a week. It would be reasonably argued that these conditions would relate to animals confined to enclosures such as the document describes. And maybe this one: 10.1.1.14 Solid food must be offered to puppies and kittens from three weeks of age. Yet again, what is reasonable in the circumstances? And a vet's opinion would quickly overrule any allegation about lack of feeding made against a breeder who had obviously well nourished pups and bitch. This code is not like an Act that may have some sections that are subject to legal rules such as Strict Liability. The key word is always going to be reasonable. The aim of the Code is not prosecution, or a legislative instrument would have been preferred. The aim appears to be largely advisory.

My vet put mine onto Malaseb, and I've always used it since then. One of mine is prone to fungal stuff otherwise but Malaseb works brilliantly. Epi Otic I always found greasy and residual. At $20 a bottle, at 30-50 dilution it is very good value as well.

You and I would think so. But nope. Straight to the shelter. He was put in foster to grow up and settle a bit and ended up in a lovely home eventually.

Reading it carefully I think there is less cause for alarm than upon initial perusal. The vaccination regime I don't agree with, nor the heartworm one. But my vet would agree with me on both, and so those sections are covered. I'm sure many reliable vets would be similar. What sections in particular worry you about your Maremma Steve?

I once saw a tiny toy poodle baby surrendered to a shelter, one week after purchase... They paid 2k for him, but couldn't cope with normal puppy stuff, crying etc...

Could be an allergy. And that's hardly a controlled scientific study. I don't have any skin inflamation issues but 'Winja' gets heat spots no matter what he is eating. What does condern me is this: "supermarket foods ... are high in salt to make them palatable." Supercoat is not supposed to have artifical additives, but salt is considered non-artificial. Px I'm well aware it may have been an allergy. :rolleyes: I never suggested it was a controlled scientific study. The point being, for a sudden allergy to show up in a dog that doesn't get it from anything else may indicate an ingredient that sets off some dogs. Hence passing on such information, public forums being a place for sharing information and experience... :rolleyes:

Is about time he was reined in and stopped from publicly spouting his personal opinion as if it were national policy.

I was wondering about that too - can anyone just refuse to speak to the RSPCA even if complaints have been made against them?? There are very few legislative requirements to provide information to investigating offcials, whether police, rspca or otherwise - some traffic law is one example where provision of informatino is mandatory. Apart from those legislated and particular exceptions, people have the right to silence. It's constitutional. Not participating in an interview is not an indicator of guilt.

I've had my prefix for some years and got it. Maybe all members don't have email contact with Dogs NSW and may get a mailed copy in future? Maybe they are sending it out in batches? Who knows. I did register a litter in the second half of this year, maybe they are going backwards through registrations and getting it sent out?

For anyone interested in exactly this sort of process, some reading on the formation of the "Silken Windhound" breed might answer some questions. Here we have a modern, newly formed breed still working towards widespread recognition (recognised in Slovenia and Czech Rep. I think, and possibly provisionally with AKC?). It has been DNA mapped since the very beginnings, with foundation and any external stock used tested clear of genetic issues. Yes, scrutiny and selection is tough and many produced pups don't become part of the ongoing breeding program. But as they are bred with care and regard, are a healthy and lovely breed they have no problem being desexed and homed as pets. The breed is promoted through their own society shows, coursing days and owner get-togethers. It can be done ethically, but not for the reasons of making a buck or mass producing fluffy pups for the instant gratification of consumers - basically the historic reasons for the creation of so many modern breeds hold true.

I got the email Tralee - I think it was a fairly generic one. Perhaps Dogs NSW are just ticking a box that they have made their members aware of the document? I do think it is ridiculously worded considering how many breeders have few dogs, at home as pets, and an occasional litter. :rolleyes:

That's a tricky weekend I think Wazzat! Only a few breed or group specialties on in Sydney area or Canberra. The Sydney Royal puts all else a little bit on hold! If you're still around, there is a great weekend of shows the following weekend (Friday 20/4 to Sunday 22/4) in Canberra. All breeds Fri and Sun, with specialties on Sat - there is a Groups 5, 6 & 7 specialty on...

Just a note, my large breed dogs developed skin inflammation after one week of Pedigree (working). I wouldn't use it again. But I do find that Coprice Working is a good substitute for the Supercoat Large Breed if needed. Bonnie Working as well.

A couple of my youngest. First in tiny tots handlers at a dogs show. Yes she's holding my hand, but... the dog (entire male) comes up to her shoulder, and she is in charge of him, he is paying attention to her. Neither have ever set a foot wrong doing this, she has taken him in since she was 3. At least now she's 5 she doesn't crawl under him to adjust his feet!! And, same daughter at 5yrs old with our last litter of pups. These guys have all grown up into child seeking and loving monsters after growing up with her!! :D

Soooo tempted this year... I normally avoid benched shows but would love to go, maybe this year... Would especially loooove to meet the Xolos.

It hasn't been deregistered for toxicity issues, it is still registered: http://services.apvma.gov.au/PubcrisWebClient/search.do;jsessionid=kBxnTykHjbHXqZsV5nxLc4xBRTvpyGr8tJ1tTjnPF1CJWpzlywTv!1534907726

I think I need a header at the top of each post - warning, crazy sighthound person's opinion included. Sorry, OT . But I couldn't resist...

That's it Gayle - the cottony-ness is what gets the seeds! Plus the fine soft hair. When we had a Saluki he used to pick up more seeds in the tufts between his toes that all of our Borzoi did - combined. And yes, I agree desexed coats are harder to maintain, texture and quantity-wise. But you didn't really thin these guys had a matted appearance when in proper cords did you?

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Yep, what Showdog said. Poodles can be shown corded. Corded poodles... drool... :D And sticks and burrs, they should be done regularly, daily if needed. Their stickyness very much depends on coat texture. As an example from my own experience - an Afghan will gather most sticks and seeds, whereas a Borzoi will rarely have one stick with them. Both long coated, both getting into similar sorts of spots - running about, looking for bunnies etc. So a softer coat is more grippy (if that makes sense!). I think the wooly coats are more sticky again, and the harsher coats even less so. I wouldn't think a Kom coat would collect too much if correctly corded, as the fibres are all entwined in the cords and not free to wrap around debris.

They're just gorgeous! We used to raise one or two every year, they're very rewarding to raise and release. :D

Their coats insulate against both heat and cold. I probably wouldn't keep them in the northern parts of Australia, but that would be the same for many breeds originating in cooler lands. Any long coated show dog has a life outside the ring, coat care comes into it yes, but Afghans and Standard poodles are two that spring to mind with reasonably high activity and stimulation needs, and show coats don't restrict that overly much for them, or for show Pulik. Show coated Old English have comparable coat as well... Attractiveness is in the eye of the beholder, and we all have different opinions. There are a great many breeds out there that don't physically appeal to me but I don't go around saying they're unattractive, just manners I guess. :rolleyes:

Details are here: http://services.apvma.gov.au/PubcrisWebClient/search.do;jsessionid=StvDTwVKmmSnzXJjLCCRGX9y3l5HfHJv6pn6SnyTZrVGKfBn0nG8!1534907726 It contains the names of the active ingredients so you can look them up.

Yes the cords are alot of work, but like Puli exhibitors, it should be done and they shouldn't be in the show ring in non-show condition. Minority breeds don't need bad publicity. The base of the cords should be left large enough to bear the weight of the cord comfortably. Another reason why narrower cords are preferable is the weight and pull on the skin. http://www.ragdollkomondorok.org/GroomingHelp.html