Tempus Fugit

There is also the issue of not leaving the collar in place for more than 10 hrs at a time otherwise the dog can get skin necrosis sores from the electrodes rubbing the skin. I used one about 20 yrs ago to deter fence jumping & fence fighting but I fully concur with the other posters re run thru.

So is it then hypocritical to denounce live baiting of greyhounds while supporting dogging of pigs? Generally pig dog pups have to be trained to hunt before they are loosed on adult pigs and for that piglets are used. I've only ever come across one NZ site where the young pig dogs are muzzled when being worked on pigs. By the way, if you really want to see cruelty in pig dogging search on the phrase 'Adu Bagong'.

Did a return trip to WA last year with my dog in a campervan stopping mainly at caravan parks or roadhouses. Liked Streaky Bay in SA, then went on to Nundroo Roadhouse & Mundrabilla RH, followed by Balladonia RH & a CP at Kalgoorlie - a bit of hassle there with the 'pet friendly' CP I had booked at as they told me on arrival the pet friendliness only extended to small dogs (something the guides don't mention). After touring the goldfields, my last stop before Perth was in Westonia, which I liked because it was a township a few kms off the main highway (no truck noise) and had a nice pub. One guide I have found useful in my travels is Australian Caravan Park Reports . As for a muzzle for a BC, I would recommend going to a farm supplies store (either bricks & mortar or on-line) rather than a pet shop. The former seem more likely to have muzzles to prevent sheepdogs picking up baits, whereas pet shops sell muzzles like the Baskerville Ultra, which prevents biting but allows the dog to pick up treats.

Because animals like Kodi can't tell their side of the story we need organisations such as the Animal Defenders Office who can provide legal expertise.

So how are SA police dogs and the military dogs that guard the raaf base trained to release from a bite?

Disturbing story

Story here: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/they-were-already-gone-cold-two-dogs-found-dead-in-suspected-baiting-20170609-gwocxs.html

In Europe, sheep farmers often use liivestock protection dogs, such as Maremmas, to protect flocks from wolves, so I don't suppose they would use baiting - otherwise their dogs would be poisoned.

Dog stabbed to death in Perth park by hoodie-wearing man; police seek witnesses: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-18/dog-stabbed-to-death-in-perth-park/8536332

Scary. My adult GSD had a few days of bloody diarrhoea a couple of years ago after a stay in a boarding kennel near Cairns. When I got home the vet diagnosed EPI but I have had him off creatin for almost a year now with no issues. So now I am wondering..........

The Bumas muzzles are certainly very colourful and because they are custom made to order are likely to be a good fit. However they are also as a consequence quite expensive compared to other muzzles. The Bumas company is based in Austria (you can google on bumas beisskorb) and recently opened an agency in the USA. I wouldn't know how to buy one from Australia, perhaps through a european forwarding company. You would need to allow for freight costs so it would be an expensive exercise.

The rule regarding muzzling on Melbourne suburban trains is not law. As with Bunnings, it is the private policy of the European-based train operating company, mirroring the policy in their European home base. It happened with the privatisation of Melbourne's trams and trains when Jeff Kennett was premier. Dogs are still completely prohibited on the Victorian government-owned V-Line country trains and I believe dogs are prohibited on public transport in all other states as the public transport there is state government owned.

This seminar may be of interest to Canberra people, although with newspaper articles such as this I doubt that the topics will get much support from the government.

Illegal live baiting of greyhounds is moreover a form of cheating just as drugging horses in thoroughbred and harness racing industry and doping of human athletes is cheating. Humans are constantly trying to cheat, whether this be in sports or other activities, eg driving over the speed limit or plagiarising student essays. If you are not going to ban the activity associated with the cheating then one is faced with the issues of: Detection of the cheating in the face of people's rights to privacy (you can't simply enter a private greyhound training facility or fly a surveillance drone over it any time you feel like it); and What sanctions do you apply to people found guilty of cheating? There is also the issue of hypocrisy. As WoofnHoof said, we have zero tolerance for dog fighting, however as a society we tolerate the hunting of animals with dogs (eg pig hunting and I dare say some pig dog pups are blooded during training). Where do we draw the line between cruelty and allowing a dog to express its natural predatory instinct? We also have a lack of understanding of the neurological processes associated with erotic stimulation of the brain of predatory species (ourselves included). Why does a cat enjoy playing with a mouse before killing it? Why do wild canids go on a killing spree when encountering domesticated sheep? Why do some humans get a kick of killing animals for pleasure (recreational hunting) while other humans get addicted to 'pleasures' such as bullfighting, animal baiting & fighting, animal torture? Yet other humans get a kick out of perversions like BDSM, torture of fellow humans (aka ISIS) or get addicted to drugs or the sexual abuse of children. In the past we've used the biblical explanation of sin, but if we accept that all living species evolved from primitive organisms including their electrochemical computers (brains), why and how does erotic stimulation occur?

Its not only China that the dogs get exported to. Also Vietnam http://e.vnexpress.net/news/travel-life/visit-vietnam-beach-town-and-bet-for-the-fastest-dog-3553782.html

Well, according to the NSW Companion Animals Regulations Part 3 Section 16: (l) a working dog that is ordinarily kept in a part of the Western Division of the State that is not within a local government area, (m) a working dog that is ordinarily kept on land categorised as farmland for the purposes of Part 3 of Chapter 15 of the Local Government Act 1993 . doesn't have to be registered in accordance with Section 9 of the Companion Animals Act. I wonder how many farmers actually bother to register a dog kept on their property whether or not it is used for livestock herding? I think they still have to be chipped though.

Is it normal for farm dogs to be registered?

This thread reminded me of a Spanish organisation I recently came across that aims to supply protection trained 'escort dogs' (PEPOS) to women that are victims of gender violence. Their manifesto is: This week has been presented the Association Project Pepos Alhaurín de la Torre , an entity that aims to provide comprehensive protection to victims of sexist violence, mainly through escort dogs. A new association, whose project is unique throughout Andalusia, will focus its work on meeting and covering all the needs that women may have in terms of protection, social integration, training, overcoming fear and increasing self-esteem from multiple fields of action . The scope of action will be the entire Autonomous Community. The idea is to ensure the safety of women and to ensure that they can develop a life free of macho violence with the support of a dog specifically trained and with a training that the users receive. And it is that the Pepos manifests itself as a system of immediate protection in case of danger, because it dissuades the alleged aggressor and avoids their approach to the victim the time necessary for them to come to the State Security Corps . The association, which was recently created and based in Alhaurín de la Torre, has a total of 20 people, including directors, advisors, collaborators and external professionals : 14 psychologists and psychologists, 3 lawyers and lawyers, 7 trainers, Materials and, in addition, a total of eight dogs, of which five are in preparation phase and another three, already ready to be donated to the victims of macho violence. Search on the web for PEPOS PERROS if you want to know more.

You can get dog hobbles in the USA. They are used mainly for training gun dogs. However they are even more restrictive than an anti jump harness. Personally, for fence jumping I would look at a ping string or invisible fence system, which have been discussed in previous threads.

Well, with macho guys like this in SA....

Here is an update: http://deadline.com/2017/01/a-dogs-purpose-producer-author-says-unedited-tape-the-dog-was-in-no-danger-1201891070/

Probably no worse than the training that CWDs get over there. I've experienced a similar reaction trying to lift a dog into a tub to give it a bath.

Apparently still alive

News update11/1/17

Link to news report