Tara and Sam Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I would buy some nice treats or nice bed for the pup and some toys ( as mentioned before ) as a good gesture for the pup while it gets better I wouldnt be handing money over towards the vet bill from your posts if seems as though you have done everything to keep your dog safe and secure sadly the puppy owner didnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebby&Indii Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Holy Jamoly, What a Huge Vet Bill. Our Neo Mastiff has had major surgery on a leg, stayed at the Specialists overnight and our final bill wasn't even that much. I would probably be doing what others said and maybe buying something small for owners and puppy, after all you were not in any way responsible, it was a very unfortunate accident. Accidents will always happen and we can't look to blame others all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Hmmm... maybe a nice new doggy bed or crate, and some nice puppy toys to play with while the pup convalesces would go down well? The nice quality stuff of course... *grin* That could help with neighbour relations and offset the possibility of them coming back at you (or your dogs) later as being "at fault" in this incident... I wouldn't give them any cash towards the bill, as the incident occurred because THEIR dog put it's paw under a tiny gap in a fence that is inside YOUR fenceline, and that contains YOUR dogs more than adequately. Where is THEIR fence or barrier to stop their dog doing something silly like this? Honestly, some people can make a nasty legal battle out of your fronting any part of the cost, and making out that you did so because you felt at fault... it's NOT your fault, and you should NOT be responsible for any part of the vet bill incurred. T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I wouldnt pay anthing towards the bill, didnt you pay for the entire fence? did they contribute to that? Maybe a get well doggy card and hamper like someone suggested is as far as i would go. This is not your fault. I built / paid for the fence before they had a dog. I paid for all the fences here. I never ask for money from neighbours. I get the fence i want that way. <<< That's the fence in question. I understand you wanted the fence your way but if a fence is built between two properties you would go halfs right? so for them to not offer any money or a gift of thanks shows you their character right there, you have saved them money by not asking for money with the fence so again i would not pay them a thing. Just my opinion.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Avanti* Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I've told them i'll contribute something towards the bill and come and see how the pup is on the weekend. Of course they've said i don't need to, but what else would you expect.I'm just unsure what i should contribute. Any thoughts ? Personally I wouldn't pay towards the vet bill as it could be admitting fault. I'd go with a gift, gift voucher from a doggy supply shop or something like that. If you still feel you really want to contribute something $200 would be more than generous imo. You sound like a very kind and responsible person but it is their responsibility after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iggy mum Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 As a few people have said. DO NOT pay them any money. As a few other people have said, maybe a puppy pack with a "get well" card for the dog, and a "thankyou" for understanding card with a "dinner for two voucher" at a nice local restaurant for the neighbours, as said earlier "a good will gesture". Any more than that is too much, especially if you are thinking of selling up in the near future. Good luck with whatever you decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Daisy Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I agree that a nice hamper and some wine would be very generous. I also would go around and block any holes you think the pup may get stuck in in the future. Even though that is not your responsibility it is still showing your neighbours that you are worried their pup could get stuck again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumnut Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I too don't think you should have to pay anything towards the bill but if you feel you have to then please don't hand any money over before sighting an itemised account. I think the doggy hamper is a nice thought. Good luck with it all and I hope the pup makes a speedy recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoffpig Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 (edited) How about a generous donation in their name to an animal rescue organisation? It would be tax deductible to them and would be helping other dogs, and since your boy is a rescue and they are obviously animal lovers and decent people they'd be hard-pressed not to be glad that some good was coming of a most unfortunate accident! Edited March 3, 2010 by hoffpig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iggy mum Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 [u]How about a generous donation in their name to an animal rescue organisation?[/u] It would be tax deductible to them and would be helping other dogs, and since your boy is a rescue and they are obviously animal lovers and decent people they'd be hard-pressed not to be glad that some good was coming of a most unfortunate accident! Agree, a great idea!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fox Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 If it was me I would consider offering to pay for the pups x-rays only. Pay direct to the vets though and make it clear that it is a 'goodwill gesture' not an admission of fault. Even if you have to put it in a nice letter and keep a record of it Surely that wouldn't be more than $200. Paying someone elses vet bill when you weren't the one at fault is unfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhou Xuanyao Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 (edited) $4000 !!! Your thinking of contributing $1000 plus, are you crazy ? Dude, a goodwill gesture is one thing and I agreed with you, but I said that when I thought the bill would be 5 or 6 hundred bucks, not $4000. If I where you id think of some other "goodwill" gesture. I can see you feel pressured into it a bit now, having said you would contribute something and now the bill comes to this, but still things change what can you do. $500 is also a very respectable, round kind of figure, I reckon $500 or nothing (in hard cash, doesn't mean you cant be nice in other ways, like going by there, ect). If you do offer cash, don't forget to ask to see the vet bill, and get a receipt off them. Edited March 3, 2010 by Lo Pan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andisa Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Hmmm... maybe a nice new doggy bed or crate, and some nice puppy toys to play with while the pup convalesces would go down well? The nice quality stuff of course... *grin*That could help with neighbour relations and offset the possibility of them coming back at you (or your dogs) later as being "at fault" in this incident... I wouldn't give them any cash towards the bill, as the incident occurred because THEIR dog put it's paw under a tiny gap in a fence that is inside YOUR fenceline, and that contains YOUR dogs more than adequately. Where is THEIR fence or barrier to stop their dog doing something silly like this? Honestly, some people can make a nasty legal battle out of your fronting any part of the cost, and making out that you did so because you felt at fault... it's NOT your fault, and you should NOT be responsible for any part of the vet bill incurred. T. This seems like a good idea, you can explain how to crate train the pup and this is something that they can continue with for the life of the pup. I can not believe that so many on here are expecting RL to fork out $1000 - stuffed if I would pay anything if my dogs were not responsible. The fence was paid for by RL - was a free fence for the neighbours - far more than what most people would have done to begin with. That fence is dog proof, was unfortunate that the new puppy owner didn't puppy proof the fence from their side. This was an accident - an expensive accident and should be seen as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaceyB Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I say you should pay the lot but I know I am alone here. (You asked ) Uhm, why do you think the OP should pay the entire bill? If her dog had not been there, I doubt there would have been an injury. I agree with lorraine, people get talking to rellies, around the water cooler at work, etc. And can I add that situations and peoples attitudes can change. Currently going through a situation with a tenant which started out fantastic for about 5 years and has now turned sour. The fact the the OP's dog was there is irrelevant, it is not illegal to own a dog and house it in your back yard. As I said in my previous post, it is the responsibility of each dogs owner to ensure that their dog is adequately contained, the pup was obviously not. If you read the relevant Dogs Act you'll also find that if another animal or person enters the property where a dog is usually kept and gets attacked as a result the owner of the attaking dog will not be held responsible and the dog can't be declared dangerous based on that incident. The OP also mentioned in the update that the vet doing the consult was not convinced the the OP's dog had even attacked it - and I dare say given the size of an adult rotti, if he had grabbed the pup with enough force to break the bone there would have been injuries to prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkeyre Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Considering they got out of paying for half of their fence, I wouldn't give them anything more then $500; personally given to the vet to go toward that accident with a bill and reciept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxx'sBuddy Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 i wouldnt give them cash because they could "read" into the amount, ie give too much and you have heaps of money or dont give enough and you are insulting and a cheapskate etc. what i would do is buy puppy toys that will keep it amused and also save the owner buying them and by default you are helping pay for the vet bill. what an awful situation but i agree RL the neighbours will be ok about this long term. we see the worst of people when they are stressed and even when the neighbours were stressed they were reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosepup Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Frack! $4000?!!?! Crikey moses is its cast made out of gold? If Moose stuck his little chicken leg under a fence and got injured I wouldn't be blaming the neighbours, I'd be blaming myself. Did you actually see your dog with the other dogs foot in his mouth? How do you know he didn't stick his leg under, stand up and then injure it trying to pull it out at the new angle. This could explain the wounds too. I wouldn't contribute anything but maybe as a goodwill gesture get them a voucher for a pet shop (non-animal ) or get them some dog toys as a welcome to their new pup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar (AmBull) Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I personally would not pay over $500 like others have said, and would pay it straight to the vet. It is a really tough decision, especially when a lot of the unknowns can crop up down the track. Your dog being a rotty does add that extra pressure, as if it did go sour down the track we all know how bias some people are against certain breeds, the rotty being one of them, I have come across this with my own dog. I think that cash can get quite messy at times between people and I do love the suggestion of a gift basket. A gift basket is a much better way to avoid the admission of guilt/goodwill gesture problems that could come up. I think putting a couple of hundred into a whole heap of things people need when they get a pup is a fantastic idea. It is a way to contribute something substantial, without dealing with all the other issues. If this were my puppy I would be more than happy to recieve a whole heap of goodies instead of cash for the vet bill. I do not think your dog is at fault in any way, a pup that young should have been watched much closer than they did and I think they realise that. They seem to be fair and reasonable people that can see it was an accident. Goodluck with it all, I think it is a very tough situation to be in and I do not envy you one bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkeyre Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 three years ago my full grown rotti mix was pulled under the tin fence by the two staffy dingoes next doors. My dog's body was litterally torn open, his bones were broken and his spine suffered a lot of sweeling. He had to have his front leg amputated and his entire body was covered in injuries needing to be flushed every 4 hours for weeks. He lived in my bedroom fulltime, was carried outside to pee etc and spoon fed. Eventually he lost the battle and died, but that was 1200 total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greytmate Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Currently we have gaps along a fence where a lawnmower contractor of a neighbour keeps continually hitting the fence. Our puffball and the neighours puffball continually have "words" through the gap. If our dog gets injured putting her face through a gap the neighbours indirectly have caused who is to blame? I am just saying that there are many sides to a story, that's all. It doesn't matter who caused the gaps. If your fence does not contain your dog it is your problem. You know the gaps are there, you need to fix that problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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