gsdog2 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Here is the Parade :D! No comp video yet that I can see Lots of Border Collie's (in all the teams) ...... but was that a German Shepherd I saw in the winning team??? Lovely to see Australia being represented Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janba Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Here is the Parade :D! No comp video yet that I can see Lots of Border Collie's (in all the teams) ...... but was that a German Shepherd I saw in the winning team??? Lovely to see Australia being represented The GSD was their reserve dog. The 3 working sheepdogs were the ones who competed. Still nice to see they were picked for the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayreovi Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Haha I was playing pick the odd dog out and was happy too see breeds other than BCs! They obviously deserve their spot just nice seeing something other than BCs :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsdog2 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Haha I was playing pick the odd dog out and was happy too see breeds other than BCs! They obviously deserve their spot just nice seeing something other than BCs :laugh: I must admit I was curious as to which breeds would be represented - not surprised at the number of BCs :laugh: . I'm sure I saw a Malinois too and I wonder how often in the past they've appeared in a Crufts Obedience ring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Well done everyone. Lowest score wins? Petra won? Know her "field" bred labrador pedigree very well. Having had the opportunity to view sire dam, and three of four grandparent during my travels. Very (let us say )....sporting shape body......active, intelligent, high desire labradors. So was there a Labrador in the obedience competition? I would love to see it, but not sure how to search through the really long videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lablover Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) So was there a Labrador in the obedience competition? I would love to see it, but not sure how to search through the really long videos Just the individual winner of the World Cup. Here you go, I have found a short general video: (um um um, cannot link it - located in youtube, under heading Crufts 2012 obedience): Day 4 - World Cup Obedience Part 13 Interviews - Crufts 2012 Hope this helps? Pedigree of dog: http://www.huntinglabpedigree.com/pedigree.asp?id=13402 Edited March 12, 2012 by Lablover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lablover Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 Typed too quickly for me...thanks again. Any idea was breed a W/S is? Working sheepdog. A border collie who isn't KC or ISDS registered ETA The UK KC recognizes the ISDS (International Sheepdog Society, the original BC registry) as a registry so ISDS dogs are usually registered on the KCs registry when registered for obedience. Thanks Janba. Is ISDS the organisation who is somewhat against show/bench dogs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janba Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Typed too quickly for me...thanks again. Any idea was breed a W/S is? Working sheepdog. A border collie who isn't KC or ISDS registered ETA The UK KC recognizes the ISDS (International Sheepdog Society, the original BC registry) as a registry so ISDS dogs are usually registered on the KCs registry when registered for obedience. Thanks Janba. Is ISDS the organisation who is somewhat against show/bench dogs? I don't know that they are actively against show/bench dogs but don't recognise KC pedigrees which I think is the same for most the working BC registries world wide where as most KCs recognise the main working registry pedigrees. The working registries pre date the show registries. The main US working registry, ABCA, is anti show dogs and will deregister any dog that gets a conformation title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) Haha I was playing pick the odd dog out and was happy too see breeds other than BCs! They obviously deserve their spot just nice seeing something other than BCs :laugh: I must admit I was curious as to which breeds would be represented - not surprised at the number of BCs :laugh: . I'm sure I saw a Malinois too and I wonder how often in the past they've appeared in a Crufts Obedience ring? In the agiliy - large dogs was mostly BCs too :laugh: and medium dogs a decent smatterimg of them as well. I saw 3 Kelpies competing in the agility (2 in ABC 1 in championships), a few Bearded Collies, a Malinois, a Groenendael, a GSD, several Shelties and Poodles, a Toller, and a few others Edited March 12, 2012 by Kavik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inevitablue Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I watched footage of the black lab. Lovely dog. Hopefully a field lab winning the obedience will highlight that there are working derivatives in many breeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lablover Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 I watched footage of the black lab. Lovely dog. Hopefully a field lab winning the obedience will highlight that there are working derivatives in many breeds. Sorry, could you clarify....."highlight that there are working derivatives in many breeds"? In the UK and US for example, field and show labradors SPLIT many many years ago. There was not been a DUAL (show/bench - field) champion for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) Here you go this is the lab that won: Edited March 13, 2012 by ness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayreovi Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 That is one massive Lab. It's so tall! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inevitablue Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I watched footage of the black lab. Lovely dog. Hopefully a field lab winning the obedience will highlight that there are working derivatives in many breeds. Sorry, could you clarify....."highlight that there are working derivatives in many breeds"? In the UK and US for example, field and show labradors SPLIT many many years ago. There was not been a DUAL (show/bench - field) champion for decades. That's what I meant, that the show lab's that people see are not the only labs available. I first read about field labs in the book Marley & Me, other than that I would have assumed that the labs I see at shows were the only style of lab available. I use the word 'derivative' as I doubt the field labs are recognised as a seperate breed. Granted, the field lab was the original lab :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lablover Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) That is one massive Lab. It's so tall! Thanks Ness. Tollersowned Yank my US import is quite tall also, a close relative. Yank's Australian Customs boys have some leg also. His other GET nice and leggy also. I love long legs on labradors. Edited March 13, 2012 by Lablover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lablover Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 I watched footage of the black lab. Lovely dog. Hopefully a field lab winning the obedience will highlight that there are working derivatives in many breeds. Sorry, could you clarify....."highlight that there are working derivatives in many breeds"? In the UK and US for example, field and show labradors SPLIT many many years ago. There was not been a DUAL (show/bench - field) champion for decades. That's what I meant, that the show lab's that people see are not the only labs available. I first read about field labs in the book Marley & Me, other than that I would have assumed that the labs I see at shows were the only style of lab available. I use the word 'derivative' as I doubt the field labs are recognised as a seperate breed. Granted, the field lab was the original lab :) Thanks for your understanding and help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lablover Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 Any youtube of the Australians??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayreovi Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 That is one massive Lab. It's so tall! Thanks Ness. Tollersowned Yank my US import is quite tall also, a close relative. Yank's Australian Customs boys have some leg also. His other GET nice and leggy also. I love long legs on labradors. I think I've met Yank, he didn't seem as tall as that boy, are the working Labs usually really tall? Leggy I know but so big? I've just never really seen many working line Labs, I've just spent yesterday watching some show Labs waddle around the ring while waiting my turn so it's shocking the two are the same breed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Very nice work with the Lab! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyValley Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) That is one massive Lab. It's so tall! Thanks Ness. Tollersowned Yank my US import is quite tall also, a close relative. Yank's Australian Customs boys have some leg also. His other GET nice and leggy also. I love long legs on labradors. I think I've met Yank, he didn't seem as tall as that boy, are the working Labs usually really tall? Leggy I know but so big? I've just never really seen many working line Labs, I've just spent yesterday watching some show Labs waddle around the ring while waiting my turn so it's shocking the two are the same breed! :laugh: But also I watched the working gun dog demonstration and thought those Labs were stunning! Lots of leg, still looked like a Lab in the head too!!! Some field labs don't exactly look like Labs anymore (probably badly bred ones) but these ones looked great!! ETA I think that Lab only looks so big because many Labs in Aus are so short!!! I once took my friends Lab who is top of the standard down to a show class and everyone was commenting on how huge and oversize he must be. It's Dogs 56 - 57 cms (22-22.5 ins) at withers and Bitches 55 - 56 cms (21.5 - 22 ins) at withers Edited March 13, 2012 by RallyValley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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