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I think..if you take Oscar back to the vets just for treats/a weigh-in ..and YOU DON'T SHOW FEAR/ANXIETY then you'll soon see Most of it will be what he picks up from you. If he was so groggy.. then any memory will be a very hazy one .... The more you churn it around in your head.. the more vibes you send the dog. My old dog used to hate the vets.. his teeth would chatter. I just totally ignored him.. and he was made to walk in & out with no fuss/acknowledgement. he didn't like it, but he did it.

Regardless of a report being lodged.. I hope the dog gets pain relief/antibiotics..or they could have a VERY ill dog on their hands. I suggest take it to the vet and if the vet wants to take it further--- then it's out of the owner's hands.

I suggest you prepare a strategy for what you'll do next time something happens you're not happy with. You can't change what happened. You can change your vet if you choose to do so. You can also change what you do in future when something happens you're unhappy with. As owners we are responsible for protecting the welfare of our dogs. My suggestion is that you channel this experience to produce a more positive result if there is ever a next time. You don't have to be confrontational.. a simple "he'll do it for me" and taking the lead would do. These things are always best dealt with at the time. But to answer the question. "Rough" handling isn't common in my experience. Not taking any shite from dogs, and the use of mild compulsion to achieve results is. Few professional veterinary practices I know have the time to bother about luring reluctant dogs into accepting procedures. Ditto groomers. If your dog put the brakes on, I'd not be surprised to see him towed onto the scales. Does he go on freely for you? If not, it might be something to work on. I'd also make a point of knowing what he weighs. The scales are the normal first point of call for dogs and owners entering my vet's surgery on every visit. With the amount of time some owners take to get their dogs on the scales and stable, I can understand why a vet might take a more direct approach. The more prepared your dog is for handling and normal procedures, the easier it is for the dog and the vet. Our club actually teaches a 'steady' for handling and tolerance by the dog of handling all areas of the body including mouth and ears.

It is now down to your training- showing him that housetraining applies to other folks' houses..and that he is not 'top dog'- to claim territory.

I guess.... as long as she doesn't make the leap to the warm blooded feathery toys

Not sure if I agree with this just because someone has a pedigreed entire dog does not entitle them to start breeding....

We have a couple here who pant and shake ...I just put them to bed & leave 'em to it. No special treatment .One little bitch who used to sleep next to mum's room got frightened by a LOUD Clap of thunder one night.. and jumped thru the flyscreen into Mum's room. She sleeps in Mum's room now. Hamlet has only just started- at age 7. All our pups are encouraged to run/play when it's stormy .. most of them grow up not worrying , but some do, unfortunately.

..using lots of bird shapes,real feathers, bird noise making things may indeed set her up to be way too focussed on live birds ..and eager to feel those feathers in her mouth

agreed.

Using treats on a groggy,wobbly dog may not have worked well... but if your dog's very food oriented, then it's a good plan

he may have been 'rougher' than necessary .. or perhaps he and the dog were both a bit out of synch because of the post anaesthesia lack of co ordination etc of your dog...and things didn't work as planned . As said- if you are so unhappy - contact the clinic.

If she intends to do it , with registered and approved bitches,and so enable resulting pups able to be properly registered - wouldn't there be quite a bit of official paperwork and health certification etc ,involved?

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There are some lovely cafes down near the beach, too - where dogs have their own water bowl and are welcome in the outdoor areas :D

Ouch ! been there, done that . Hope there's nothing broken!

No - way beyond me But I love THIS GUY'S work!

If it were me , I would want a vet check before going away.... just so you don't get any nasty surprises during your time away ... Hope she's ok :rolleyes:

Looks like hives - which are part of an allergic reaction.Hope the vet can be of help :rolleyes:

I have never heard of such a 'training' method. No, definitely not ...but a dog who may be excited/anxious , and who can not open wide to pant properly may over heat.

And every time I see benadryl cough mixture I remember when KC used to go thru the kennels- and days would be full of coughing labradors spitting and dribbling benadryl spit everywhere!

...and what you might have to ask your vet about is the CARRIER for the active ingredients!! Some are human specific , some animal specific.Whilst the active ingredient may be fine... the carrier may not.