cannibalgoldfish

Welcome to Dol.. lol. Gist is, your friend's dog now has pups they didn't expect when buying said dog. Raising pups can be a financial burden (be glad the mum didn't need a C section!) and it's not what your friend was expecting. Dogs "breeder" was probably a byber otherwise they wouldn't be breeding from a limited register dog, but that's not important now. Now there is a litter of pups that you and your friend want to do the right thing by. Surrendering them to a good foster group (people suggest yellowgirl?) is a good option. Pounds/RSPCA will just sell them for their fad value. Sadly this breed means there will be heaps of interest, not all good Just do what you/your friend feel best about. End of the day it's up to you. They may very well be pure french bull dogs, but they might not, and it doesn't change how good a pet they will be :D If you do sell them, sell them as crosses. That is being honest as you can be because without actual papers they could be either. There are a few cross breeds that are dead ringers for pure breeds, and there are some badly bred pure breeds that look like a cross.

Yes desexing young dogs can have problems for some dogs, but most are fine. There are just as many health risks with un desexed dogs. How about considering a dog that wasn't conceived can't have any health issues, either from being desexed or from being bred from? That's looking to the future. I don't think the OP was doing a dodgy, or trying to drive up prices. But with the breed mentioned, I would not let them go without desexing them. Sure some people will be genuine and won't breed them but there are many more who see "French Bull dog= money". Either onselling for triple price or breeding to add to the fad. Yes, Frenchies are a huge fad right now! Such a fad in fact that they being stolen frequently. So you might have the best homes lined up, and they are responsible people who don't plan to breed their dog. But then dog gets nicked because it's a popular breed and there are other dodgy people who know this.

Heads up, no matter how well you "screen" the homes you can't tell where the pups will end up. Some people will lie to you, some will have circumstances change down the track and some might do the best for their pets but they might be stolen/escape. Desex them now before rehoming. You worry they are pure Frenchie? They aren't. I'm sorry, without papers they are mutts, no matter what their parents are. The big shame is the original owner breeding dogs on limited register. This is why breeders insist on desexing before rehoming.

The dog was on limited, but was used for breeding previously? Me thinks not a registered breeder....

4 months old? I hope that's a typo. Because 4 months old means he just basically just left his mum.

I wouldn't bother. Because the very nature of a cross means the temps and the coats can be guesswork. That's even before you look into the "breed" of the original cross. It's often not just two pure breeds bred together but several blends. "Maltese-shitsu" ring any bells?

Well, aren't the prices going up! 14 years ago a mains registered was $1000...

my favourites were the Swamp Wallabies with their little striped faces and their golden dusted shoulders, butts and tails... so gentle and friendly.... they would wait until we finished lunch when we were mustering and quietly slip over to the sandwich crusts... Which would kill them eventually with Lumpy Jaw..

Shiba inus are roughly between $1000, $2000. Sometimes even more or sometimes less depending on breeder and what you are looking for.

Eye color affects behaviour?

I'm gonna suggest Shiba Inu :D

Animal cruelty. Pretty sure there are laws about letting dogs harass wildlife as well. Idiot should be fined.

Bwa ha ha ha.... Not mine. :D

Mastiff can't be a rare breed, there are sooooo many tan black masked " mastiff crosses" listed all the time with the pounds and shelters. Surely that's because there are so many mastiffs? (clearly I'm being sarcastic)

Next big flag right there. These dogs got free and killed a cat. Off lead parks are often full of small fluffy quick moving dogs that will give the same stimulation as a running cat. If the parents couldn't recall said dogs from chasing the cat after they pulled free from the leash then your ex wouldn't have been able to call them off a small dog if they had run across one on their off lead park rambles and it triggered their prey drive. Just luck it hadn't happened before now.

It's more common than not so I'd rather a new owner be prepared and ready to take steps to manage it if it became a problem.

Do they even have Norwegian Buhund in Australia?

Don't know what you have been reading but nope! Shikoku are a bit feral and a whole lot of Spitz. They look beautiful, I know! I would import one if I had the money, lol. But they take primitive a bit too far. I have heard there are breeders overseas trying to work on that and make them better family pets but they are hard work. I had shibas. Trust me, those beasts are like energiser bunnies! They can go all day. But while they are happy on hikes ect, they need to be kept on lead (especially in new areas!) otherwise they will bugger off. They will socialize if they feel like it, depending on individual dog , it's mood and what ever planet is in alignment, ect. RuralPug is correct in one point. Spitz breeds can stubborn (and have poor recall!) and can be dog aggressive. Not all of them, yes but they are common traits in the breeds. One of my boys was a social butterfly, loved everyone but hated most other dogs, the other would ignore you and snob everyone and every dog. Both were fine with kids, by the way. Shibas are nuts, but a whole heap more domesticated and manageable than a shikoku. If you like the look, get a sesame shiba. They have a similar colour to a shikoku but at this stage make far better pets. What do you mean by singular household? I had two shibas, two cats and myself and my partner. I don't have kids but my boys met kids in their outings (and yes, kids just run up and grab!)and my two handled interactions fine. They had far more issues with unleashed dogs running up to them >:(

I'm asking because a while back a friend found a cat, it had been hanging around their house for a few days. She called the Rspca/pound and was told, she didn't need to ring them just take cat to a vet and if it's not microchipped, then they can get it chipped themselves and it's then theirs!!!! They also told her that if you drop an animal off to the RSPCA you don't get get any claim to adopt it if unclaimed. I can not believe anyone would say this! I seriously can't believe this was true.

I always thought it was law that if you found a lost cat or dog you need to take it to the nearest vet (to scan for a chip) or the nearest pound. Or at least contact the pound to let them know you found said animal and in some cases they might say to keep it at your place but they record your details should someone call up looking for a missing pet? and if you don't at least contact them you are technically keeping lost property? Is this true or is it just certain states? There are so many Facebook posts saying " I found this dog/cat, if no one claims it I shall keep it." and if anyone mentions taking it to the pound (where most people would look for their lost pet) they say something like "cant take it to the pound, they will just put it down!"

Last Tuesday morning my old man made his last trip to the vet... We knew it was coming, Loki was 15 and almost totally blind, incontinent and arthritic and had the occasional fit. ( Possibly going deaf but I couldn't tell because, Shiba). Yet it was his little heart that failed. My little old man. He was a strange weird critter but I loved him. He promised me he would make it through another Winter but he missed it by 3 days...

Loki became storm and firework phobic around 7 years old which was around the time he started going blind. I have recently noticed that now at 15 years old he has stopped being scared. Apparently he is now so senile he has forgotten he used to have these phobias... I can never tell if he is deaf of just ignoring me, because, Shiba.

I'm sorry if I offended you PossumCorner I did debate with myself about how offensive it would be if I posted that's what I called it. ( it was over a decade ago.) I really ummed and arhhed.. I don't think or refer to Loki's then stressed mental state as that any more for that reason. I only wrote it as that to try to describe how certain trauma and injury can possibly effect a dogs mental state. If you prefer I'm happy to delete my posts.

I don't know if you would call it PTS but when Loki was 2 he escaped the yard and was hit by a car and fractured his hip in two places. After he healed it took months to get over his fear if he heard or saw a car driving past. He was never scared of cars before this, by the way. But for the next 2 or 3 years after that he would have random "moments" every now and then. He would be walking along fine and then just stop. He would refuse to move and stand there shaking. If there was a seat near by I would sit down and he would climb up onto my lap (he has never been a lap dog!) and lean into me, shove his face under my arm and start crying/whimpering. I'd sit there and cuddle him and then he would pull himself together and we would go on with our walk. If I couldn't sit down with him I'd just have to wait while he stood there and shook. (It wasn't a fit) He only did this if we were walking near a busy road and not every walk. I used to call it "His flashbacks to 'Nam" He eventually got over it but even now 13 years later he still shies away and drops his tail if a particularly loud car or truck drives past. I don't know if it was PTSD but the accident definitely messed with his mind long after his bones healed.

I thought one of the critters was a goat? I assumed it was feral. Ah, and a fox, and a cat...