twodoggies2001

And now you make me see RED, here you go suggesting the small dog was to blame. Read the article again. The black dog was offleash. It was a much bigger dog. This was an unprovoked attack - it sounds like it was so sudden that noone had time to do much, they didn't see it coming! It RIPPED THE INNARDS out of the smaller dog. What does it take to make you and people like you realise that this is abnormal? It is completely unacceptable and this owner should go to jail and pay an enormous fine, his dog should be euthanased. The owner did nothing at all to prevent this attack and I'd like to know how many other dogs and animals have been killed already by this large dog - you can put money on it that it's done it before. wow, so many posters suggesting i'm excusing an unprovoked attack. Read what i actually said and try again. I did not place blame on either dog, I simply stated I'd really like to know the full story, not just what the media has told us. Did this occur in an offleash dog area? Did the larger dog approach the smaller dog and the larger dog ended up reacting to the smaller dog acting aggressively? Was the small dog really on leash? Lots of questions which we probably will never know the answer to. What does it take to make people like me reaslie that this is abnormal? What does it take to make morons who own little yappy fluffballs to realise that it's not ok for their dog to aggressively approach other dogs? I didn't intend for my comment to suggest that a dog getting barked at was reason enough for the other dog to react in such a manner, however anyone who lives in the real world will see stupid owners of all sized dogs allow their uncontrolled dogs to act dominant or aggressively toward other dogs, the majority of those are little fluffy yap yaps. It doesn't take much for a large dog to rip a small dog apart! BTW, I'm absolutely sick of stupid owners(mostly owning little fluffball yap yaps) who allow their dogs to charge and carry on toward my dog. It may well be the case that this little dog was completely innocent and the larger dog(well it's owner at least) was completely at fault but I'd like to know the full story, not just what we're told by the media! How do you get it into your head that stupid owners (mostly owning little fluffball yap yaps) allow their dogs to charge and carry on. What sort of a dog do you have? Personally, I wouldn't like to tangle with an owner like you. I think you would be the sort of owner who would blame any other dog or owner because you think you're correct. I have two mini schnauzers (must be one of those stupid owners and a moron) who interact with dogs at the park, big and small. By the way, the are not yap yaps. I have never had a problem with any dogs there. Why, because the owners are of the responsible and considerate type. More often than not, it's not the dog, it's the person that's with them. The person responsible for the dog that attacked is a moron and surely would have realised that the dog, supposedly under his control had the capability and obviously the temperament to do what he did. Again, I ask, how you would react if it was you in this situation and had seen your dog ripped apart in front of your eyes.

So what if the so called fluffball, which mini schnauzers are not, did yap, this is no reason for such a horrific attack, and where was the ever so responsible owner? What if the victim happened to be a child, and not a dog? I know, some will say dog aggressive dogs are not necessarily human aggressive that's not the point. I hope they find the dimwit who owns this killer and that they both get their just deserves. I'd like to know how you would feel if it was you and your family in this situation.

Off topic, but are you the Kirty who worked at a specialist vet clinic in Melbourne?

Is it possible the name has been changed because of all the bad publicity Pit Bulls have been getting? Not being an expert of bull breeds, but to my eye they look the same.

Just being ignorent here, but aren't Amstaff's really Pitbulls?

I'm afraid my dogs will not be given vitamin water. You can call me a bad owner, but that's how it stands lol. They get their meat bought from MY butcher and a few supplements and fresh water out of my filtered kitchen tap. They don't look unwell or uncared for, so I think I'll just keep doing what I'm doing and spend the extra on what I save not buying vitamin water on other hdealthy doggy indulgences.

that's exactly what I thought as I was reading the thread. The certainly are a no no if they are smoked or cooked.

We can't blame the kids. It's all up to the parents to teach the kids the right and the wrong way to interact and approach any dogs. Unfortunately, in most cases, the parents know no better. My grandchildren have been taught to firstly ask the owner of dogs if they are allowed to pat and if given permission they also know to place their hands to let the dog sniff them first. My grandchildren are 8 down to 3 years old and have all been taught to respect animals.

I space it out to 6 weeks under the instructions of my vet. The manufacturer is there to sell the product so naturally they will say it's needed 4 weekly rather than 6 weekly. As for the worming and flea treatment I myself prefer to do it all in one hit. Of course, everyone does what suits and that's OK too.

Fair enough. That's why I space it out to 6 weeks.

Why do you think it's overkill? I use Sentinal but give it 6 weekly and this means that I don't have to use an intenstinal worm killer and flea treatment on top of the heartworm.

You must be loaded. lol. The cost of electricity these days is prohibitive. Anyway, I like the smell of freshly dried clothes off the washing line.

There have been almost no decent studies on it. I feed offal, but I don't believe it is necessary at all. I feed offal twice a week included in the raw diet. It seems that it is a necessary part of the raw diet.

I would, and I have had a dog with his eye taken out. He was being treated by a specialist for ulcers and thousands of dollars were spent and in the end, his eye ruptured too. On the day that it happened, he was clearly in a lot of pain and and on the evening he came home after having the eye removed, he was an entirely different dog. He learned to get around, even after his failing eyesight in his remaining eye.

That's exactly the reason I won't feed a commercial diet. I want to know what my dogs are ingesting. My head tells me that dogs are born to eat raw and natural foods. I know there are many out there that will disagree with me, and those of you who do, you're perfectly entitled. Given the choice of commercial or raw, my boys will always go for the raw first and foremost. I say this because on occasions I pet sit my cousin's schnauzer and his dry food is sent over with him. I have been given the option by his owners to feed him like I do my own and he and my two will avoid the commercial and hoe straight into the raw. Must be something to it. My visitor invariably goes back with almost the same amount of dry food he came with. My two go and sniff and turn away.

I had the same problem with my mini schnauzer puppy who is now 10m months old. He also ate his own poo and I tried the pineapple and also meat tenderiser and these didn't help. I was also diligent with the picking up and there were times he would even bring it into the house to enjoy. I'm very happy to say that he did grow out of the disgusting habit, so maybe the pup in question will also.

With a raw diet, the quantity certainly doesn't seem enough but the difference with the raw fed dogs is that their body absorbs all the nutrition, therefore you would have noticed that the poos are much smaller than with commercial pet food. The raw diet also allows for slower growth and if she doesn't look skinny and you can just feel ribs when you touch her lightly, then I wouldn't be concerned.

Yes, I forgot to mention that my boys also get chicken feet which apparently have lots of glucosomine. They get these as a treat and they love them. It's so funny to watch them each of them take a foot out into the back yard with half of it sticking out of their mouths. I feed them frozen and they much them over about a 5 minute period.

As I said. I give the necks, chicken frames and I also buy baby veal ribs and cut off a part of the meat and feed that as the meat part of their diet. The easily manage the baby ribs. If she is not a gulper, then the necks should be fine. I feed recreational bones, (ones that cannot be eaten only chewed) more as a treat rather than a part of their food intake.

I have stopped feeding chicken wings to my mini schnauzers because of the fat content because mini schnauzers are very prone to pancreatitus. I give them chicken necks and chicken frames and cut off any excess fat. Have you tried to feed them other digestible bones rather than the wings?

do you by any chance mean litmus paper?

I feed mine twice a day too only the other way around. They get the RMB in the morning and the meaty part in the evening.

I'm so sorry to hear this terrible news. This is the hardest part of having companion animals RIP Oscar. Run free with your best friend Mia.

well as someone who does everything, heartworm, flea, intestinal worm treatments seperate, I am horrified that anyone thinks it's ok to double up on chemicals. Just goes against the grain. I'd never go to that vet again. It may not be bad for them, have never looked into it, but I would never ever do it. With all the stress on the body nowadays why add to it? Yes, I'm shocked a vet would say that was ok to do. I would never double on any chemicals. That's the reason I wouldn't have the yearly heartworm shot either. 12 months worth in one lot. No thanks.

Sentinal Spectrum prevents the flea egg from hatching. I use it because it covers intestinal worms as well as heart worm and it's very easy to administer