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I had no idea that was even possible!! They are referring to people as 'registered greyhound owners' but it's in name only which is really really unsettling. ????

to no-one in particular; Maybe try to explain why Companion Animal and Caretakership is objectionable to you. It may actually help the student instead of making her feel like an idiot for asking. I've never heard of the word 'Caretakership' it seems totally made up and not really what animals need in terms of proper care. Not trying to be mean but they aren't equals and we shouldn't rob them of their identity as animals by making them helpless little humans. 'Companion Animal' is well and truly here as a definition, even in legislation eg The NSW Companion Animal Act 1998. I use the term as a reference i.e all pets, but not in relation to my own pets sitting next to me if that makes sense.

Thank you so much!

Thanks RP. That would be lovely if you would gift them to us Caz. Anna c/o SSR PO Box 3026 Marrickville Metro NSW 2204

This is a new communications system that will be able to track our contacts with people and the number of inquiries we decline or accept or don't respond to. As well as a more efficient way of them so sign up their donors. I feel like nobody wants to believe that just maybe things aren't as all sunshine and roses as they look. Just watch and see. http://www.dolforums.com.au/topic/267081-pet-rescues-new-comm-system-explained/

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Yes that's how I understand it too. I know the large shelters cop a shellacking for euth rates but I have seen the consequences of some dogs adopted out that should NEVER have left - misery for dogs and owners alike. That's is what it's supposed to mean but it gets taken literally by the public and rescuers alike.

I don't know. It's easy to say but how do you do it to a heathy dog who I assume believes she is at home and as far as she is concerned, has a whole lot of owners (might not be the best word). A kennel full of volunteers and staff who love her and spend time with her to make sure she is happy. I don't know. At what specific moment do you decide?

From the other thread. Just adding that from what I saw the big dogs had a LOT of work put into them by staff and volunteers so please give them some credit for caring. Walking, playing, training, fussing, rolling around in the grass with them, getting covered in slobber. Sorry. Don't buy a lot of what's being said on the other thread. Sounds like a steaming pile to me. She has no reason to lie and was never close mates with the rescue owner. And I was out there on an off for the first few years as a weekend vol. One thing I can say is that Jules the neo wasn't in there 8 years. That would have mean she arrived not long after it opened. So think to yourself; how much more has been exaggerated or made up out of thin air. On a quick skim I could see some bizarre claims and plenty of fake rescue profiles being dusted off for the occasion. Great promo for the business owner who went out to take the photos though. I don't agree with lengthy kennelling at all. And the effects of institutionalisation can be devastating but I'm not expert enough or spent any time with the dogs in question to say what they were feeling. 99% of the time I was with the small dogs. The quarantine section was literally life saving for some dogs I rescued because with seniors at home we couldn't risk illness coming in and wouldn't have been able to rescue them without 2 - 3 weeks grace. & Ironically now the rescue has been moved out it will again be home to breeding dogs, for however many years they produce popular breed pups and nobody is making noise about that. Sometimes I wonder if Jules' family was born out there when their dogues and neos were being sold. Old customers of the place used to come into the office confused, expecting to be able to pick up a new pup from the display pens.

I found, the study was actually a Mars survey of 3000 people and the results were released as the 'Pets Positives Score' mashed together with other select papers so what exactly they used is unknown (see references at the bottom). Here And here's a transcript from the ABC interview with Dr Chris regarding the score, and Dr Richard Malik (an amazing cat specialist who helped me successfully treat a very serious cat condition). Here

The study was commissioned by Mars Pet Care Aus but i can't find the actual report.

There's an old thread. Doler imported one, I gather from that, they aren't readily available here or ANKC registered (so you wouldn't be able to go check them out at a show). Happy to be corrected! Do you have other breeds on your wish list just in case?

Ah! Thanks ladies I'm understanding more now.

They haven't legislated against the breed. They have condemned the activity. LOLs at the above. They've always been BSL to a certain extent. With greyhound specific regulations. Without racing tattoo (BYB etc) then a few prey driven attacks will get greys and greyhoundy looking dogs on the list of 'breeds' rangers can visually identify and act against as with bull breeds. Not sure if ACT will take up that method. & Thank you for the article trifecta! That is much clearer.

Yes. When live baiting came out it really kicked off a lot of interest in saving them. What worries me; there is the line is that if the dog has no tattoo, you can't prove it's a grey and therefore it doesn't need a muzzle. It makes a more appealing rehoming prospect. (edit; wtf is going on with my formatting!)

(this is from the govt site) Do they own Wentworth Park and places like that? I'm not sure what their actual property assets are. It will all become crown land? Sorry for the questions, I don't really understand the land thing and if it will be turned over to developers straight away.

I rest my case. On topic, there's not much that pound staff can do about any rescue without proven breaches of law. Even then, it would go to the general managers and higher up to make decisions.

Culling. I'm also worried they will be exported like the ones who were sold to china.

I love this thread!

I'm so sorry Anne Rest In Peace little one. xxxx

I expected that post DD and I'm so bored of you. You have a problem with me. And every time you try to poke holes in my posts by deliberately twisting things it just makes you look petty and strange. BTW thank you Anne and Tootsie Roll for taking my post as it was intended.

Just wasted 5 minutes skimming. I blame you Tootsie Roll the curiosity was too much. Basically it's a standard social media rescue brawl. From experience....dealing with a huge rescue brawl that still ended up accomplishing nothing. (Yep this is going to be another "in general" type post) * A good 50% of posts from either side's supporters are total bullshit. * Many claiming to have facts or inside proof or whatever often don't have anything useful or concrete ... someone has fed them regurgitated information or they are playing sock puppet. * Sift out the bystanders, the disgruntled, the morally outraged & the ones who have been waiting ages for a chance to enthusiastically stick a knife into whoever. * And somewhere under the crap you'll find the simple truth. Mostly after everyone has stopped shouting and moved on to the next outrage. If that offends anyone then so be it but absolutely nobody in rescue & animal welfare is perfect, without ego, or in it to win friends and please everyone. If you want to help the dogs focus hard on the bit of truth where you can find it and go with that. Ignore the noise.

Yep. You must have missed my bitching and complaining in the other thread.

Wow, I had absolutely no idea they were prone to uterine cancer! I remember entire does being snooty, cranky, clucky little cows.