Nekhbet Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 (edited) OK so I've been unemployed for a while. My savings are gone on rent and I want to make my dog food last longer, by no means poverty stricken but I need to tighten my belt for a while. My doggies were also a bit porky so they could do with some weight loss but theyre always starving I got a bag of Farrells 4x2 greyhound biscuits since they are hard and fairly dry, low protein/fat the dogs could chomp away on a few a day without gaining more weight. They are also on chicken carcasses and veges. Well ... Skootas hair is falling out Bugger me. He hasnt eaten Royal Canin for about 1 1/2 weeks and he's going bald. The patch between his shoulder blades, base of the neck and 1/3 way down his back has become VERY patchy, skin looks dodgy and he's started moulting like no tomorrow in general. He's not scratching he's just 'thinning' all over for lack of a better word. It must be the fillers and lack of oils in the Farrells. The other two are fine on them but Skoota is banned from them and back onto RC and carcasses, veges and Diesel is still on his usual hand full of supplements. I have flax seed oil ... ahahaaa if anyone cares to come and watch a grown mastiff crack the shits at a syringe full of flax seed oil, roll over and throw a tantrum bring the fold out chairs and an esky. Tis a sight to behold. I'll have to get it into him somehow, and some fish oil tablets but I lose a hand trying to push anything into his throat One tactic is when he once barked to tell me off for giving him supplements I squirted it in HA teach him to bark at me too eta ... for those who dont know Skooty Patooty Edited October 10, 2008 by Nekhbet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonElite Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 if you pulp the vegies and mix it with the mince than add oil to the mix. you can give them canned or raw fish too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 he sniffs all his food suspiciously since I put oil in it I feel like saying FFS its not that bad just eat it. I tried it its human grade organic, really not that horrible. Diesel tries to suck down the whole bottle if I let him. I'm a little loathe to go back to canned fish as what came out the back end after a couple of fishy meals dear dog that was not from this planet. Maybe I'll make some raw mince balls and hide some capsules in those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeak Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 My two dogs, even my "fussy" eater both eat their fish oil tablets just dropped in amongst their kibble. I did get the "no fish odour" ones, so I don't know if that makes a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Just beware with the amount of 4x2's you give, we had a client with 2 greyhounds both got GVD at different times and I *think* at least one of their meals was 4x2's with milk- I'm sure that's what came out the stomach tube of one of them anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 they only get a 2-3 per day, it looks like an aweful lot of cereal to pump into a dog anyway. Guts and poo are doing ok i've been keeping an eye on that (no I dont follow my dogs staring at their bums ) They do contain wheat I think which may be the problem as he never gets any wheat in his diet before this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KitKat Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Have you tried Uncle Albers/Great Barko? My guys are doing well on it and it's quite a dense concentrated food...one of my GSD's is only getting 2 cups a day...as opposed to 4cups of Euk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaves Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Have you tried Uncle Albers/Great Barko? My guys are doing well on it and it's quite a dense concentrated food...one of my GSD's is only getting 2 cups a day...as opposed to 4cups of Euk! snap just about to suggest that Nek it is $25 a 22.5kg bag at Robbos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storm Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Have you tried Uncle Albers/Great Barko? My guys are doing well on it and it's quite a dense concentrated food...one of my GSD's is only getting 2 cups a day...as opposed to 4cups of Euk! Sorry to the hijack where in Brisbane can you get this, south side if possible please/? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 Great Barko pretty much reads like the 4x2 biscuits except with more protein which worries me. I'm suprised Diesel isnt falling apart his skin is very bad since he had Parvo months ago, he's usually the one with bald patches. I've just never seen a dogs hair fall out that quickly! My gosh I hydrobathed him (he had decided to roll in the chook poo I put on the roses) and it came off in clump He loves cooked rice with his veges so I'll use that to bulk out the meal instead of the 4x2s . I have a few Kgs of RC left so he'll have that too for his skin. Skoota is actually not a huge eater he lived on about 3 big coffee mugs of RC a day and gained weight on it, he's fairly good on the food that way. Either that or 3-4 chicken carcasses and a bowl of veges and rice do him. Would just be nice to be able to give everyone the same bloody thing for once! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puggy_puggy Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Goes off to google what the ingredients of Farrells 4x2 greyhound biscuits are. Bringing my esky and fold up chair to watch the sideshow. I put flaxseed oil into the veggie/fruit slops that I make up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netti Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Hair loss can be a side affect of an underactive thyroid. A trip to the vet for blood tests may be in order. Cheers Netti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaves Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Great Barko's INGREDIENTS Great Barko is formulated from a selection of the following ingredients. Cooked meat or meat by-products derived from beef, lamb, chicken, pork, cooked fish or fish by-products, fat, cooked cereals, wheaten bran. Canola and soy products derived from them. Lysine, methionine, antioxidant, bentonite, vitamins and minerals. Vitamins: A, D3, E, K, B1 (thiamine), B2 (riboflavin), B6 (pyridoxine), B12, niacin, pantothenate, folic acid and biotin. Minerals: Calcium, phosphorus, sodium, chloride, cobalt, copper, iodine, iron, manganese, selenium and zinc. I cant find the ingredients for the 4x2's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted October 12, 2008 Author Share Posted October 12, 2008 4x2s wholegrain cereal and cereal by products, meat and meat by products (including beef, mutton or poultry), dicalcium phosphate, salt, preservatives, antioxidants Crude Protein 12% Crude Fibre 5% Crude fat 3% salt (sodium) 1.5% its the wholegrain cereals and byproducts, he really didnt eat them before and since he started *poof* hair falling out. I'm going to give him a couple of weeks and if its not settling after being taken off the 4x2 then vet time. Netti he has been like this before, when he was younger his previous owners bad diet gave him a great case of folliculitis and he had the same patching in the same places combined with allover shed. hmm i'm wondering why they put bentonite in Great Barkos ... does that count as mineral ash? Thats what they make cat litter out of on the upside they are loosing the podgy pounds before the warm weather kicks in this summer looks to be a right scorcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 I got this information from http://www.flintriverranch.org/labels.html Sodium Bentonite - Sodium Bentonite is basicly a small amount of inert clay which is used as a binder to aid in the formulation of small pellets of food. Side advantage of this ingredient is that it is said to aid in the digestive process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Don't discount the preservatives either - I avoid them like the plague due to skin reactions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witheverythingiam Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 If you're just looking for something to add to the dry food for his hair, try "Sprint Oil" by Ranvet - my fussy boxer LOVES it - he tries to lick at it when I'm pouring it in his bowl. It's an omega 3 & 6 liquid addative, so also good for bones. -WithEverythingIAm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 You sure the flaxseed oil isn't off??? I never ever get gastro but some off flaxseed oil gave me a really bad tummy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted October 18, 2008 Author Share Posted October 18, 2008 thanks WEIA I might try that. I think there are flavoured products but I avoid 'flavourings' Jules I thought maybe too (Diesel isnt really a barometer for things being off he eats old garbage and mouldy food) Princess Mina thinks its OK and I had a taste too occasionally to make sure. tastes OK I think he's being a turd hey I found a great product at the food and wine show has anyone heard of Flax Fibre? It's 100% organic flax meal from new zealand and BOY it makes you drink a lot of water! I got some for Mina to try as apparently its good for cholesterol, blood sugar and oestrogen levels in the body. She had a fatty deposit growing on her eyeball so I freaked out that my baby was going blind its finally gone ;) so I'm using it myself, its quite, well, cleansing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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