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He didnt do much touching of the dogs in Group 5 either, wouldnt do teeth etc...

I dont know what the refusals were for, I think he explained it to the handler of the kelpie at the end of the group....

Ruralpug - Yeah when he was in his class, only for a short period, maybe a few steps, but yes, took the dog and made the owner walk out in front of the dog?? :)

Now technically :) she couldnt show any more that day as the judge has handled her dog :rofl: :rofl: Sorry TS was funny!.......and confusing :rofl:

Without speaking with him it appeared he was trying to demonstrate/show to her how he expected her to show her dog, ie Specialist?

That may be but that dog is shown in the specialty ring and the owner/handler knows how to show specialty :cry: He just loves his mum lots... :rofl:

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Group 6

BIG Alaskan Malamute

RU Sibe

Baby Puppy - Samoyed ???? (I think ?? - happy to be corrected)

Minor Puppy - Shiba Inu

Puppy - Akita (I think ??? - An Akita won a class - think it was this one - sorry memory shocking at the moment)

Junior - Can't remember

Intermediate - Packing up & didn't see.

Aus Bred - RUIG

Open - BIG

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He didnt do much touching of the dogs in Group 5 either, wouldnt do teeth etc...

I dont know what the refusals were for, I think he explained it to the handler of the kelpie at the end of the group....

He told the owner/handler of the Kelpie that it was too young will check with Pam when I speak to her tomorrow

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He didnt do much touching of the dogs in Group 5 either, wouldnt do teeth etc...

Did he get exhibotors to mouth their own dogs? or not look at all?

Many judges prefer exhibitors to mouth their own dogs these days.

Re "touching dogs" ... I've always wondered why some judges find it necessary to spend so much

time going over an exhibit .. except of course to look for the "finer" points of the standard.

Surely "on the move" is where you will see construction faults.

cheers

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He didnt do much touching of the dogs in Group 5 either, wouldnt do teeth etc...

Did he get exhibotors to mouth their own dogs? or not look at all?

Many judges prefer exhibitors to mouth their own dogs these days.

Re "touching dogs" ... I've always wondered why some judges find it necessary to spend so much

time going over an exhibit .. except of course to look for the "finer" points of the standard.

Surely "on the move" is where you will see construction faults.

cheers

I showed him my girl's teeth but he didn't seem to really look - he touched her breifly over the withers, more like a pat, and then sent us off around the ring.

He was a good judge of GSD in my opinion, judged them on the move - but I am biased as my girls did really well under him :)

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I am already struggling with our Group - hard when you are running with 5 dogs!

BIG - Bedlington

R/U - NZ Import Kerry Blue - the one that was BIG on Saturday and Jess handles it

also went on to take Intermediate In Show

Baby - Border Terrier (Tolley)

Minor - Cairn (Scotton)

Puppy -

Junior -

Inter - Kerry Blue (r/u)

Aust B - Bedlington

Open -

2 Staffords went up for age in Group but cannot remember which despite the fact that I was in the ring for Puppy and Open. Sorry but was running and very tired now. Will update if the light bulb goes on.

One amazing result was with the Great Danes. BIG went to a Dane and his litter brother was R/U BIG - under the Japanese judge. They were thrilled.

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Mr J Singh (India) also non awarded challenges to kelpie and both lappies, dont see that very often...

Have to say the funniest part of the day was the judge taking my friends GSD off her and made her walk in front and he walked behind with the dog :laugh: ........

Can anyone tell me who the kelpie was ? Curious at to why it would have been non-awarded? :laugh: seems like an interesting show.

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He didnt do much touching of the dogs in Group 5 either, wouldnt do teeth etc...

I dont know what the refusals were for, I think he explained it to the handler of the kelpie at the end of the group....

He told the owner/handler of the Kelpie that it was too young will check with Pam when I speak to her tomorrow

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We assume it's a similar reason for the Lappies but both of us being novice handlers we didn't think to ask when the steward told us there wouldn't be a challenge. We had a minor puppy bitch and puppy bitch, both of them have been awarded challenges before. Oh well! I'm calling it good practice.

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He didnt do much touching of the dogs in Group 5 either, wouldnt do teeth etc...

Did he get exhibotors to mouth their own dogs? or not look at all?

Many judges prefer exhibitors to mouth their own dogs these days.

Re "touching dogs" ... I've always wondered why some judges find it necessary to spend so much

time going over an exhibit .. except of course to look for the "finer" points of the standard.

Surely "on the move" is where you will see construction faults.

cheers

I'd be extremely concerned if a judge didn't touch my OES.

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I was talking to the lady whose Tibbies where non awarded on Saturday.

She stated that Tibbies are not in a lot of European countries and are often mistaken for Tibetan Terriers :happydance2:

So often OS judges have not seen them and do not realize what colours they come in.

Despite non awarding the boys he still gave them some places over the girls in class run off. Go figure. :dancingelephant:

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Mine was the other lappie that was non awarded. We were just told to get out of the ring when it was time for the challenge but that we could come back for minor and puppy.

We assumed it was because of the age of the lappies but then later he awarded the vallhund puppy who is younger than my girl so who knows.

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It may not have been the actual age of the dogs but rather the maturity/immaturity of the dog in question.

I wish judges had to provide in writing a reason for refusing the challenge - for the benefit of the exhibitor and to avoid rumours spreading etc.

It's very rude when a judge just says no without offering up a reason. And how are we supposed to learn if we are not told what's wrong?

I was amused by seeing several group 5 breeds walked around and then gaited. Wouldn't mind if it were the norm to be frank.

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I was talking to the lady whose Tibbies where non awarded on Saturday.

She stated that Tibbies are not in a lot of European countries and are often mistaken for Tibetan Terriers :birthday:

So often OS judges have not seen them and do not realize what colours they come in.

Despite non awarding the boys he still gave them some places over the girls in class run off. Go figure. :happydance2:

But but but... :dancingelephant:

No wait, that would have been in the younger age classes as the steward would have eliminated run off in the classes that the BOB and RUBOB were in.

I guess, in theory, it means that had the older bitches not been present he would have non awarded the girls too?

So I suppose there is not necessarily any inconsistency there.

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