Pockets Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 He didnt do much touching of the dogs in Group 5 either, wouldnt do teeth etc...I dont know what the refusals were for, I think he explained it to the handler of the kelpie at the end of the group.... Ruralpug - Yeah when he was in his class, only for a short period, maybe a few steps, but yes, took the dog and made the owner walk out in front of the dog?? Now technically she couldnt show any more that day as the judge has handled her dog :rofl: Sorry TS was funny!.......and confusing Without speaking with him it appeared he was trying to demonstrate/show to her how he expected her to show her dog, ie Specialist? That may be but that dog is shown in the specialty ring and the owner/handler knows how to show specialty He just loves his mum lots... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathilda's Mum Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Group 6 BIG Alaskan Malamute RU Sibe Baby Puppy - Samoyed ???? (I think ?? - happy to be corrected) Minor Puppy - Shiba Inu Puppy - Akita (I think ??? - An Akita won a class - think it was this one - sorry memory shocking at the moment) Junior - Can't remember Intermediate - Packing up & didn't see. Aus Bred - RUIG Open - BIG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kallistar Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 (edited) He didnt do much touching of the dogs in Group 5 either, wouldnt do teeth etc...I dont know what the refusals were for, I think he explained it to the handler of the kelpie at the end of the group.... He told the owner/handler of the Kelpie that it was too young will check with Pam when I speak to her tomorrow : Edited January 26, 2011 by kallistar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pockets Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Yep because the Samoyd went Baby In Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I think the Akita won junior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr_inoz Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Looks like an interesting weekend coming up in Adelaide... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellcara Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 He didnt do much touching of the dogs in Group 5 either, wouldnt do teeth etc... Did he get exhibotors to mouth their own dogs? or not look at all? Many judges prefer exhibitors to mouth their own dogs these days. Re "touching dogs" ... I've always wondered why some judges find it necessary to spend so much time going over an exhibit .. except of course to look for the "finer" points of the standard. Surely "on the move" is where you will see construction faults. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pockets Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Exhibitors did Teeth I don't mid judges not touching dogs unless to Check something like if the dog is deep or if it is just coat...we do specialty and judges don't touch the dogs :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ish Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 He didnt do much touching of the dogs in Group 5 either, wouldnt do teeth etc... Did he get exhibotors to mouth their own dogs? or not look at all? Many judges prefer exhibitors to mouth their own dogs these days. Re "touching dogs" ... I've always wondered why some judges find it necessary to spend so much time going over an exhibit .. except of course to look for the "finer" points of the standard. Surely "on the move" is where you will see construction faults. cheers I showed him my girl's teeth but he didn't seem to really look - he touched her breifly over the withers, more like a pat, and then sent us off around the ring. He was a good judge of GSD in my opinion, judged them on the move - but I am biased as my girls did really well under him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merijigs Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I am already struggling with our Group - hard when you are running with 5 dogs!BIG - Bedlington R/U - NZ Import Kerry Blue - the one that was BIG on Saturday and Jess handles it also went on to take Intermediate In Show Baby - Border Terrier (Tolley) Minor - Cairn (Scotton) Puppy - Junior - Inter - Kerry Blue (r/u) Aust B - Bedlington Open - 2 Staffords went up for age in Group but cannot remember which despite the fact that I was in the ring for Puppy and Open. Sorry but was running and very tired now. Will update if the light bulb goes on. One amazing result was with the Great Danes. BIG went to a Dane and his litter brother was R/U BIG - under the Japanese judge. They were thrilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarzc Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 any group 5 results? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelpiesrule Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Mr J Singh (India) also non awarded challenges to kelpie and both lappies, dont see that very often...Have to say the funniest part of the day was the judge taking my friends GSD off her and made her walk in front and he walked behind with the dog ........ Can anyone tell me who the kelpie was ? Curious at to why it would have been non-awarded? seems like an interesting show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aetherglow Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 He didnt do much touching of the dogs in Group 5 either, wouldnt do teeth etc...I dont know what the refusals were for, I think he explained it to the handler of the kelpie at the end of the group.... He told the owner/handler of the Kelpie that it was too young will check with Pam when I speak to her tomorrow : We assume it's a similar reason for the Lappies but both of us being novice handlers we didn't think to ask when the steward told us there wouldn't be a challenge. We had a minor puppy bitch and puppy bitch, both of them have been awarded challenges before. Oh well! I'm calling it good practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkyTansy Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 He didnt do much touching of the dogs in Group 5 either, wouldnt do teeth etc... Did he get exhibotors to mouth their own dogs? or not look at all? Many judges prefer exhibitors to mouth their own dogs these days. Re "touching dogs" ... I've always wondered why some judges find it necessary to spend so much time going over an exhibit .. except of course to look for the "finer" points of the standard. Surely "on the move" is where you will see construction faults. cheers I'd be extremely concerned if a judge didn't touch my OES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Baggins Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I was talking to the lady whose Tibbies where non awarded on Saturday. She stated that Tibbies are not in a lot of European countries and are often mistaken for Tibetan Terriers So often OS judges have not seen them and do not realize what colours they come in. Despite non awarding the boys he still gave them some places over the girls in class run off. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolving Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 (edited) Mine was the other lappie that was non awarded. We were just told to get out of the ring when it was time for the challenge but that we could come back for minor and puppy. We assumed it was because of the age of the lappies but then later he awarded the vallhund puppy who is younger than my girl so who knows. Edited January 27, 2011 by Evolving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikesPuppy Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 It may not have been the actual age of the dogs but rather the maturity/immaturity of the dog in question. I wish judges had to provide in writing a reason for refusing the challenge - for the benefit of the exhibitor and to avoid rumours spreading etc. It's very rude when a judge just says no without offering up a reason. And how are we supposed to learn if we are not told what's wrong? I was amused by seeing several group 5 breeds walked around and then gaited. Wouldn't mind if it were the norm to be frank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edpra Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 The gundog judge at cranbourne rarely put anything below open for cc's and refused RCC dog and bitch in Chessies- guessing because they were both minors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuralPug Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I was talking to the lady whose Tibbies where non awarded on Saturday. She stated that Tibbies are not in a lot of European countries and are often mistaken for Tibetan Terriers So often OS judges have not seen them and do not realize what colours they come in. Despite non awarding the boys he still gave them some places over the girls in class run off. Go figure. But but but... No wait, that would have been in the younger age classes as the steward would have eliminated run off in the classes that the BOB and RUBOB were in. I guess, in theory, it means that had the older bitches not been present he would have non awarded the girls too? So I suppose there is not necessarily any inconsistency there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarzc Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 any group 5 results? bump! Any info on classes would be great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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