Guest RosieFT Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Got text from DH today because someone he works with is having dog trouble and has recently got professional help - someone out of the paper, not sure who - and has been told that you must never, ever use the command 'down' and only ever use 'drop'. The trainer did say something about the word 'drop' being very clear to the dog where as 'down' wasn't ? They were surprised at how adament the trainer was. So DH msged me to get the answer.... ??? We use 'down' as i wanted to save 'drop' for releasing a ball as we had done with all my child hood dogs. Irony is i use 'give' LOL. I have to say that when Rosie springs people do say 'down' to her to get her to stop bouncing, so perhaps this confusion might pose a problem? any thoughts?? anyone heard this before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laneka Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I have always used drop and used down to get down from something. To release a ball or object I use the word leave or give. I think it is up to the individual as to what commands to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 :laugh: Well there are plenty of obedience champions who have never had a problem unsderstanding 'down' :laugh: Most obedience people I know use 'down' I use 'drop' but I'm not an obedience person as you know :laugh: (And I use 'down' to tell them to get off furniture etc so couldn't use that) Really you could use 'coconut' if you wanted to :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minxy Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 You can use whatever you want, but I use drop for lying down, and down if he wants to put his paws on something that he shouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy82 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) I use "down" for lying down without any issues, "drop it" for dropping objects, and "off" for getting off furniture. Edited January 16, 2012 by fuzzy82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voloclydes Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 *^$$&% in a happy tone works too... you can use the worst words in a pleasent tone and dog will give a rats.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozstar Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I use down if I want my dog off furniture etc or if jumping up on people. I use drop if I want my dog to drop to the ground. Leanne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DobieMum Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I use both down and drop for the down position, depends what mood I'm in on the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffyluv Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I have always used drop and used down to get down from something. To release a ball or object I use the word leave or give. I think it is up to the individual as to what commands to use. I use the same commands... I think it is an individual thing and what works for you and your dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dxenion Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Use whatever you can remember to use every time. One word for laying down, another for dropping an item etc. 'Down' for us means lie down. We dont use 'drop' but instead use 'give' to get them to drop the item. Getting off an object is 'off'. Consistancy is the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teebs Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 i also heard this once... never thought of it again :laugh: I use drop for them to lay and down for them to get off the lounge/beds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Are You Serious Jo Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 What a strange idea. I have to use down for lying because I use stop on my sheepdog and drop and stop sound too similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lollipup Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 You can use what you like and many advanced trainers use "down" :) I use drop but my husband had a habit of saying down or lie down so they have learnt that too(BAD TRAINING)so thats their informal command but I always use drop to be formal and off to get off furniture/people. Out or give as a drop it/ let go command. I know someone who always uses drop with shelter dogs because so many people say down to get off them when a dog jumps and it could confuse the dog. So maybe that's why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlemum Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 In Victorian Dog Obedience Trialling "drop" is the ONLY acceptable command for getting a dog to lie down - maybe your Professional is originally from Victoria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 In Victorian Dog Obedience Trialling "drop" is the ONLY acceptable command for getting a dog to lie down - maybe your Professional is originally from Victoria Really? I've never heard that before, I thought any command as long as it's in English is acceptable in the trial ring as per ANKC rules (and even that is at the discretion of the judge). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlemum Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 In Victorian Dog Obedience Trialling "drop" is the ONLY acceptable command for getting a dog to lie down - maybe your Professional is originally from Victoria Really? I've never heard that before, I thought any command as long as it's in English is acceptable in the trial ring as per ANKC rules (and even that is at the discretion of the judge). OK - I haven't trialled for a while but, I was always taught that "drop" was the only acceptable command in Victoria - different states have different rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lollipup Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Out of curiosity, since you can only use English for obedience, can you choose between English and German if it's for Schutzhund? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) OK - I haven't trialled for a while but, I was always taught that "drop" was the only acceptable command in Victoria - different states have different rules I don't think that's the case but I'll have a look at the rules as I'm intrigued now. ETA: I had a look at the rules and the only thing I can find in reference to commands is that they must all be in English. Out of curiosity, since you can only use English for obedience, can you choose between English and German if it's for Schutzhund? A friend of mine does ANKC obedience and uses German commands, she hasn't had an issue, she just asks the judge before going in the ring if it is ok to use German words and they've always said yes. Schutzhund I'm not 100% sure, am sure you can definitely use German commands though. Edited January 16, 2012 by huski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasels Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Wow, of all the important messages you could impress on someone in a training consultation, this has to be one of the most trivial. If I hired a trainer that spent more than 5 seconds on this I would feel like I was wasting my money. I use down for my boy and lay down for my girl. Drop, off and leave are already taken in our training dictionary. I'm certainly not going to start shuffling them around now! Edited January 16, 2012 by Weasels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimiss Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I use 'Lay down' for my puppy too.. I did originally try 'down' and he wouldn't listen, then I said 'Lay down' and he did.. So it stuck :laugh: Every other command he knows is one syllable so it's a bit out of place but hey, whatever works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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