HunterDoggy Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Hi everyone, I’ve recently been in contact with a cavalier king charles breeder. They have a 14 month old male cavalier who needs to be put in a pet home because he is not needed there (too many dogs and a few have to go). According to the breeder he is lovely, has all his health checks, good personality, etc. I just want to get others opinions on prices of dogs being homed at an older age. The breeder is asking full price for this dog, is this normal? I would take him in a heartbeat but my partner is concered about the price and thinks “why wouldn’t we just get a puppy for that price”. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 It depends on the breed , Cavs still command that price even adults . If you look on the breed pages other breeds go for just the price of desexing. It depends what you want , this dog will have had all the hard work done , and you can see it’s personality now , if the pup fits well with your lifestyle and the breeder has done all the health checks cavs need it’s a good choice . 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgrubber Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 All over the place. Depends on breed, age, why rehoming, breeder's emotions (I've given away dogs when the new home is fantastic) and financials. Not easy to generalize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterDoggy Posted December 4, 2018 Author Share Posted December 4, 2018 48 minutes ago, juice said: It depends on the breed , Cavs still command that price even adults . If you look on the breed pages other breeds go for just the price of desexing. It depends what you want , this dog will have had all the hard work done , and you can see it’s personality now , if the pup fits well with your lifestyle and the breeder has done all the health checks cavs need it’s a good choice . Thanks for your reply. I think I have to agree with you, our dog we already have has a big personality so we really want another dog who will suit him so that’s why I think this dog may be perfect. Maybe we’ll have to meet the dog and see what my partner thinks after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterDoggy Posted December 4, 2018 Author Share Posted December 4, 2018 23 minutes ago, sandgrubber said: All over the place. Depends on breed, age, why rehoming, breeder's emotions (I've given away dogs when the new home is fantastic) and financials. Not easy to generalize. Thanks for your reply sandgrubber. I understand it’s hard to generalize but based off the information I’ve given above I was hoping that others could tell me if full price (the same as a new puppy) was normal for this dog being rehomed. I am unsure how it works. Maybe some breeders put down the price after 6 months, 12 months, I have no clue but that’s what I was hoping to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemappelle Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Adult Cavs do seem to be the same price as a pup, and some times even more. You have to consider also, that an 8 week old pup still requires two more vaccinations and desexing and I imagine that is included in the price of the young dog you're interested in. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgrubber Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 27 minutes ago, HunterDoggy said: Thanks for your reply sandgrubber. I understand it’s hard to generalize but based off the information I’ve given above I was hoping that others could tell me if full price (the same as a new puppy) was normal for this dog being rehomed. I am unsure how it works. Maybe some breeders put down the price after 6 months, 12 months, I have no clue but that’s what I was hoping to find out. There are people who prefer not to deal with a baby puppy and will want a nearly grown dog. I wouldn't expect much of a discount unless there is a problem with the pup. Was he run on, and didn't come up to show quality? Didn't sell sounds unlikely as cav puppies are generally on wait list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterDoggy Posted December 4, 2018 Author Share Posted December 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, jemappelle said: Adult Cavs do seem to be the same price as a pup, and some times even more. You have to consider also, that an 8 week old pup still requires two more vaccinations and desexing and I imagine that is included in the price of the young dog you're interested in. Yes you are very right about that! Thanks for your comment. I’m going to have a good think about it all today and discuss with my partner tonight to see what he thinks. He is the type to not make impulse moves, he needs time to think things over but I really do think this boy could be great for us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterDoggy Posted December 4, 2018 Author Share Posted December 4, 2018 53 minutes ago, sandgrubber said: There are people who prefer not to deal with a baby puppy and will want a nearly grown dog. I wouldn't expect much of a discount unless there is a problem with the pup. Was he run on, and didn't come up to show quality? Didn't sell sounds unlikely as cav puppies are generally on wait list. From what the breeder told me, she kept him and his brother but decided she couldn’t keep both and said she just prefers the brother over him so he needs a home. But you’re right, plus he is getting desexed so I guess the pricing does work out. Was just curious what others had to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diva Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Usually when older puppies are discounted it is because the breeder is having trouble placing them, that is very unlikely for Cavaliers. At 14 months he is still young but has passed the hard work months of puppyhood and adolescence, has had his vaccinations and will be desexed, and has probably been well socialised if he was a potential keeper. Easily worth as much as a puppy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Agreed , he is worth it if all his vet work is done , price it up you would be surprised how much it all comes to . If she kept him it means he is a good example of his breed too . The main thing is that he gets in with your other dog and fits your home . I wouldn’t hang around tho as they are snapped up fast . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterDoggy Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Diva said: Usually when older puppies are discounted it is because the breeder is having trouble placing them, that is very unlikely for Cavaliers. At 14 months he is still young but has passed the hard work months of puppyhood and adolescence, has had his vaccinations and will be desexed, and has probably been well socialised if he was a potential keeper. Easily worth as much as a puppy. Yes this is my thoughts Diva. Thanks for your comment. I’ll discuss this all with my partner tonight. I understand their price, they are the best dogs (to me at least!). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterDoggy Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 53 minutes ago, juice said: Agreed , he is worth it if all his vet work is done , price it up you would be surprised how much it all comes to . If she kept him it means he is a good example of his breed too . The main thing is that he gets in with your other dog and fits your home . I wouldn’t hang around tho as they are snapped up fast . You’re right. When I spoke to her I said I’d discuss with my husband and get back to her asap so we won’t um and ah too long. Speaking of him and our dog, do you know what is best to do if we do end up taking this dog from the breeder? I’m assuming we introduce the dogs in an area like a park etc instead of our house. I’ve never introduced another dog to our home before when already having a dog so I’m not sure what is best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asal Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, HunterDoggy said: You’re right. When I spoke to her I said I’d discuss with my husband and get back to her asap so we won’t um and ah too long. Speaking of him and our dog, do you know what is best to do if we do end up taking this dog from the breeder? I’m assuming we introduce the dogs in an area like a park etc instead of our house. I’ve never introduced another dog to our home before when already having a dog so I’m not sure what is best. I suggest you go with your idea, park, neutral territory... you dont want your boy to feel territorial first meeting. is your boy also a cavalier? if so once they get to know each other and all seems good then take home together, but until settled I wouldn't leave them together unattended for the first days until they have settled in. better to prevent any possible confrontation rather than deal with because you rushed things. remember to make your first dog first attention, then you dont create the problem yourself, the new boy will be feeling a little out of the loop but dont add to any by seeming to prefer the new boy over the original. make the fuss of the other boy while the other is busy in another room until they are settled with each other...then can be equal attention.. Edited December 5, 2018 by asal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterDoggy Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 19 minutes ago, asal said: I suggest you go with your idea, park, neutral territory... you dont want your boy to feel territorial first meeting. is your boy also a cavalier? if so once they get to know each other and all seems good then take home together, but until settled I wouldn't leave them together unattended for the first days until they have settled in. better to prevent any possible confrontation rather than deal with because you rushed things. remember to make your first dog first attention, then you dont create the problem yourself, the new boy will be feeling a little out of the loop but dont add to any by seeming to prefer the new boy over the original. make the fuss of the other boy while the other is busy in another room until they are settled with each other...then can be equal attention.. Great advice, thank you. Our current dog is a cavalier and also a male. I was a bit worried because they are both male but the breeder seems to think it will be fine as the boy she has obviously has been around other males and my boy also spends a lot of time with my mum’s dog who is male so I’m hoping things go smoothly if we do go ahead! My dog is like my actual baby so I’ll be sure to continue the over the top amount of love he gets haha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodoggies2001 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 I know nothing about cavaliers as a breed, I'm a mini schnauzer person and I would have loved to be in the situation you have described. I've always had schnauzers is twos and when we said goodbye to our boy at 10, after 4 weeks or so, it was time for another addition. I dearly wanted an 'older' pup. Lazy I suppose. Everything done as in lead training, toileting and most things puppies do as they're learning, vaccinations and desexing. It wasn't to be, so a pup came into the family. I had forgotten just how challenging it was but Leroy is now 12 mths old and a wonderful fit into our family circle. With this older puppy, all this has been done for you so in your place, I would consider myself lucky. I would probably discuss with the breeder that per chance, things don't work out, would it be feasible to return the puppy. Good luck in whatever decision you make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tassie Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Sounds ideal … and yes, if she's kept him this long, it sounds as though she really likes him .. just has to be realistic with the number of dogs she can keep -- good sign. To help convince your partner on price … add up .. as a minimum .. two lots of vaccinations/vet visits .. and 12 months of feeding, grooming etc, then add that to the puppy price. That might help convince him. Fingers crossed it all works out for you. Cavs are great little dogs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 When you get home with the new dog, go inside one of you and get your dog and take it up the road, grab new dog and walk alongside, no face on meets, just casually walk alongside , chat to oh in a relaxed voice so they both feel the calmness coming from you. Let them sniff after a bit if they want to, but just keep moving , go for a little walk then bring them into the house together if its all going well. By then the new dog is not a stranger to old dog. I always keep my new dog onlead , i drop it to floor in case i need to grab it, but then i own a Bull breed who can be picky with other dogs, so i would think 2 Cavs will be much easier. I don't know if the breeder will suggest you take your current dog to meet at her place anyway? I did that when i was getting my second bully,the breeder wanted me too to make sure they got on ok before i took her, even tho my older dog was one of his too, he is just very fussy where they go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 14 months is not old so the price is reasonable Providing it has been we’ll socialised. . We charge full price at that age too because people are getting a well trained adult dog 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterDoggy Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 Thanks everyone for the comments, it’s been a great help to me! My husband and I spoke last night and agree that it is reasonable. We’re going to arrange to meet the dog and see what his personality is like. If all goes well then he may soon be apart of our family! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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