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Mostly yes, because TID is not just about building drive but building a relationship with your dog where they see you as the best thing ever. They shouldn't look to other people to get drive satisfaction, in fact most people do a lot of work with their dogs precisely so the dog learns that other people aren't going to give them what you (the handler) can.

That is horrible Ptolomy I am very picky about who I hand my dogs over to for any thing. Daisy will work for other people to a point, I mean she won't refuse food if someone wants to give her some (unless I am working her) but she doesn't work the same for others as she does for me and I don't want her to anyway.

Yes me too. I am not ever interested in having a flat dog in the ring. Daisy does not have the best positioning but that is my problem and laziness with training, it's not related to drive.

I never used to crate Daisy at trials but I will from now on. I am guilty of stressing up and warming her up too much so that by the time she gets in the ring I've used up a heap of drive already. I'd rather a drivey but messy run out over a flat run out any day - if Daisy is flat, her nose hits the ground and I lose her.

I was lazy. I lured Daisy to stand with her two paws on the object then shaped the rest.

Me too It's great!

That's not too uncommon - quite often, working commands are taught in another language or with other words to everyday English command words.

Run free Murray beagle :D

They sure are! http://www.prok9.com.au/index.php?option=c...4&Itemid=91

Yes you always have to wonder when someone is so extreme or hateful towards any training method.

Wow, he's certainly got a very narrow view point and has put anyone who uses PR and/or clicker training in the same box. Not everyone who uses PR or clicker training is a purely positive trainer, either. Besides which, I don't think of clickers as an entire training method or philosophy, to me they are just a tool that helps me communicate more clearly to my dog. Are there some instances where PR is not useful? Sure, of course there are. But that doesn't make it (or clicker training) useless or means that anyone who uses either are wimps who have spoilt, out of control dogs who are never disciplined and walk all over them. Overall I found the article quite distasteful.

I would never say never. Who knows what situation could crop up in an emergency, if I had to choke a dog to stop it from attacking a person or another dog I would do so, absolutely.

It's a Harry Potter reference

;) I want to use that! OMG I am so stealing that.

I've gone through a few BD treat pouches, they have both fallen to bits pretty quickly. I just bought one of Erny's super duper ones

Well I decided to start training Daisy seekback, she is really enjoying it so far! I started by getting her to find it in the house, which she was really good at. Last night I took her out to the local park and did some heel work. I'd drop the SB at the 'start peg', walked a few steps turned around and asked her to find. She LOVES this new game - she is really enjoying it and gets so excited when she finds it and races it back to me. Can't wait to see how she goes with it. I like playing scent games with her as she obviously really enjoys being able to use her nose.

Hey! I've never done that to a dog... I thought you were more of a skinny jean type guy, Aidan?

I think it's next year Huski, when he is back in Australia and going to WA also. It is too Pax! Not sure why I wrote this year when I know it's 2011... my head must be stuck in the future

We won't make the 7th... we have an obedience trial.

Ok so we've officially started seekback training! Today was our second SB training session and I placed the SB article around the house and then bought her in and got her to find it. At first I made it obvious then when she got really confident with that, I stepped it up and started putting it behind the dining room table, behind her food bowl, next to something the same dark colour etc. She LOVES playing the new game - I love seeing how excited she gets when she finds it and bounds back to me because she knows she got it will be interesting to see how we go from here :D

Not sure yet when I'll be trialling next - will you be entered at the Pine Rivers trial? Will PM you about catching up

You can see a bit of prancy heelwork that Richard Curtis does with his dog Whizzy towards the end of this vid; http://www.youtube.com/user/rich1338#p/u/8/fEw9cbEzcp4 Kamal will be back in Australia this year, for anyone who is interested he will be doing workshops/seminars at Camp Tailwaggers this year I must admit I have been lazy with Daisy's heel position. It is improving, but because focus was something we struggled to get for so long that is my number one priority - I am happy just to have her be excited and working happily in training/ the ring. I am sure I will be more precise with training heel position for my next dog, but it's not been my main focus when training Daisy so it is definitely the area we probably need the most work on. Here's our latest vid - excuse the vocal beagle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdjFyY_ArEI

Cant watch the Cider vid till I get home, can't wait! A lot of the dogs I see with bad heelwork that lacks that focus and attention can usually be put down to lack of motivation. I know that once I found a way to keep my dog motivated the attentive heel work followed pretty naturally. Not that our heelwork can compare at all to Ptolomy's amazing work! I remember Richard Curtis talking about how he trained that prancy UK style heelwork with one of his dogs at his seminar earlier in the year. Was so interesting and can't wait to see how you go wth Strauss Ptolomy!

What do you do when he grabs your hand?

Nothing to add, just wanted to say how cute she is :D are you in Brisbane?