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I'm sure everyone has done a bit of Sunday arvo googling about dog breeds Skye, Lakeland and Kerry you know... the 'one day' dream dogs. Anyway, I ended up on wiki, then on the Kennel Club site.... There here; http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/getting-a-dog-or-puppy/finding-the-right-dog/vulnerable-native-breeds/ Is this right? That so many are just hanging on? Or is it that other registries are being used instead? It's probably the same in other countries too and not a shock to some but seeing dogs fade away in their homeland is sad I had absolutely no idea.

Most of our rescued dogs are tiny to small, and almost every second one has had rear dew claws hanging on by thin skin, I always have them removed. They are a tangle hazard and also hide scarily well under fluffy hair. We did have a rotty through once with double rear dew claws that flapped around when he walked :laugh: so they were removed. Not many docked silkies/yorkies are around anymore but all of them have had front dew claws removed as well. My main problem with front dew claws in the littlies is they don't seem get enough use to wear them down so you have to trim the nail regularly. Haven't had any caught or torn here yet but some dogs come in with that tiny nail curled all the way around and deep into the pad.

Cat lollies :laugh: Google 'upcycle cat litter box' and the photos will be better than my description but basically, a little piece of furniture with a cat size entry and the tray further to the back so it's hard to reach. eg here http://indulgy.com/post/nmtjfEJgR1/hidden-litter-box

Noooo I'm too scared to google! Agreed, I'm not sure that this wasn't some sicko getting his kicks. I think he is having you on;really why would anyone give such details over the phone knowing it is a crime. If he wanted to surrender a dog he could do so at any shelter he chose without saying anything. Not if it isn't his dog to surrender... T. So why was he ringing a rescuer to take the dog;the whole thing is very odd. T is probably thinking of the granny who used to constantly attempt to surrender her adult daughter's fluffy dog to different rescues. It was weird and a bit of a mystery, but she was really determined. I can't remember exactly what the hell was going on, there were grandkids involved. She probably just kept on trying with her stories until she found a group who said yes. (edit; the chip was in her daughter's name so taking the dog to the pound was only going to end in a phonecall to the real owner which I'm sure she found out from practical experience)

First time dog owner! IMHO Desex. :) No offence but this is your first dog, you aren't going to breed from her and even experienced owners can have accidents. It happens that fast. Let her grow some more if you prefer, as long as you can absolutely guarantee she will be safe. You may need to crate her if you can't manage. And whatever you do in the end, please please at least get rid of her uterus. Pyometra is a killer. Philosophically speaking, yes dogs are amazing souls with a lot more going on than we can yet understand. But I only have desexed pets (and desex every single rescue dog) and I don't believe they have ever for one moment pondered the ways it has changed their lives or feel like something is missing. Nor do I believe they are missing out on life by not going through phases of desperately wanting to mate and the frustrations of not being able to; because we as humans have control over their lives in every aspect. They never really progress mentally past the toddler age of human thought so what a good owner does is do some thinking for them, control situations or curb instincts and wants (call it agency) that are potentially harmful or risky. I don't mean purely regarding the desexing topic. Aussie you are so lucky! :laugh: girls in season drive me mad. I get the suziwong circus. LOL Lucky it never happens a 2nd time. ;-)

I really do hope it's a load of crap and a wind-up. The fact that he didn't call the rspca to either surrender the dog and/or tell his story to them first is a bit odd but who knows what's wrong with some people. There may actually be a dog belonging to his (ex) girlfriend that he'd like to part her from in a nasty (gross) revenge. Seriously, if a normal person caught their partner once then there wouldn't be a twice!!! *vomit*

RSPCA comment 2014 http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/illegal-puppy-farm-continued-to-operate-despite-reports-to-rspca-wyndham-council-20140617-zs9lx.html As part of the proposed 'smashing' of puppy farms the RSPCA are earmarked for $5mil funding to do inspections but I can't see why this ongoing cruelty needs to go on until 2020 before anyone can touch him with either new legislation or new powers.

omg a penis!!

Unbelievable. No sign of a cruelty conviction either. So I guess we're exactly nowhere after all the Vic Govt puppy farm promises.

If it's the rescue's policy then it's their right to choose.

No it's the same thing. Eewwww :laugh:

Containing pet cats is good for them. :) Put aside all the poor wildlife which in some areas of Sydney wouldn't be a consideration in people's minds, and you are still left with a huge problem with squashed and missing cats as well as FIV etc. What I can't see in the article is what they plan on doing with the stray, non-feral cats living amongst us. Assuming it means a clean sweep and euthanasia?

Too many, too late. Always remembered. xx

Roaming domestic cats should be brought to heel The variety of life on Earth – its biodiversity – has taken millions of years to develop. Its complexity is both a strength and a fragility. If something is disturbed or removed will there be a mere shimmer across the surface or will ripples build to a tsunami of losses in unexpected places? The best we know is that there are many threats to biodiversity and we have to take care, limit our losses, and take steps where we can do something to help. Of the many things we could do – one legislative instrument, one signature, would help prevent the further decline of Australia's native species in Canberra, our Bush Capital, through addressing a key threat to our threatened species – roaming domestic cats. This would be to declare all of Canberra a cat containment area, with an appropriate lead-in time. The ACT Domestic Animals Act 2000 provides the mechanism for targeted, practical and effective action against roaming domestic cats in Canberra. full article here http://www.smh.com.au/comment/roaming-domestic-cats-should-be-brought-to-heel-20150331-1mbtca.html Scientists, Jon Stanhope, former Greens push ACT-wide cat lock-up http://www.canberratimes.com.au/environment/animals/scientists-jon-stanhope-former-greens-push-actwide-cat-lockup-20150331-1mbub9.html

If that's a way of saying you're sorry but not sorry if we're too stubborn to care about 'ramifications' then you may have completely missed my point. Information sharing yes, but put-downs about rescuers deliberately covering up whatever research you choose is unfair. There's times I'd happily grab a breeder by the shoulders and drag them to the pound to see the crosses borne of pups they sold entire. Or point out that Trading Post now as the latest fad purebred crossed with all sorts of weird and wonderful pound fodder. But it's not something you say on Dol. Because it's considered breeder bashing, not information sharing.

Friendly ones are great... *grin* T. Does friendly count as not pecking your eyes out? :D

:laugh: Doggy mullet. I totally want to kidnap Smoke.

The wonderful thing about finding reports of this or that, is the way one side or the other has a way of making them prove a point. Like the anti child vaccine arguments. I understand breeders feel passionate about it but it's offensive in the rescue section. We desex. We also care. And the little jibes about it being detrimental and convenient is way out of line. Maybe there is a desexing risk, maybe not. But I'm not interested when frankly on the ground and out of the showring, I'm fed up with pyometra, mammary tumours ....... testicular cancers and enlarged prostate tearing open a massive hernia in the poor boys. I'm fed up that it could be prevented and the dogs we get have been suffering, sometimes terminal. There is zero need for people to have an entire pet if they can't prevent matings, or tell what a uterine infection is and can't see a tumour hanging of their dog's balls.

note to self; make sure you don't have a full coffee cup or a full bladder before reading one of Maddy's posts.

Actually, I just had a flashback to a dog rescued from Hawkesbury. She was rescued and then going straight to a new home, she was safe so I was never given her photos to post. All good. Happy ending. But her NUTCASE fellow rescuer told the adopter that I had deemed the dog not worth saving. A dear little old senior foxy. The owner made a fuss, created a FB page for her all about big bad rescuer deeming his dog not worthy and better off dead. The point to that was; As was stated in another thread, it attracts people who can be worryingly unstable or just downright crazy. Substance and alcohol abuse can be involved as well. I think sometimes that's what those on the outside-looking-in are seeing.

Haredown, sorry but do you have a link to veterinary studies or papers? PM is fine, I'm very interested now you've brought it up. Long story and very off topic. :) Let me google. :) This website looks like a good start I see white dogs rate a few mentions for cancer too. Another Excellent! Thank you :) :)

Haredown, sorry but do you have a link to veterinary studies or papers? PM is fine, I'm very interested now you've brought it up. Long story and very off topic. :)

I understand it's confusing. I'm just explaining what happened and what the deal is for the dog and for you. Sometimes lies about temperament get told, just to get a save. There's currently a rescue facilitators' dogs sitting in other pounds and they (the 'rescue') aren't answering calls. There's dogs being rehomed undesexed by people who are given pound dogs in the same 11th hour scramble. And pound dogs being bred from. & I'm not going to dredge up a horror story from years ago but it was about the worst outcome you would ever expect. Just to make sure dogs don't get euthanised at the pound. It may have worked for you and the rescue - I'm glad it did but, it doesn't always. Which is endlessly frustrating and damaging to rescue in general. They are also very fortunate that you are honest and will hold up your end of the bargain. Once a dog is physically in someone else's hands the rescue has zero control and presume the microchip is enough to get it back. So you got your dog, but you still need to understand that even if a group doesn't run that way, it's not in an attempt to be rude or unreasonable, or hold onto every dog. They are trying to get it right not just crossing fingers and hoping. OK, the Rottweiler being through 3 different rescues is a red flag. That's not normal. And as for the reasons for your refusal...some I see as reasonable if it's relevant to the dog in care and adoption policies. Case by case. But overweight? I thought I'd heard everything. Did they do a yard check and then eyeball you as well? Maybe I'm too fat to rescue :laugh: Haredown, I should have just said what you did. LOL, too much rambling today. as usual, edited for spelling!

You seem to have 2 gripes, first being communication which is what this thread was about. Second, if I've interpreted correctly; You've gotten a group to pull a dog out of the pound and given it to you with no vetwork done then that is not "rescue". That's facilitating. That is you choosing a pound dog and them using their council approval to get it out for you. And I hope you don't need to return it anytime soon because they have no obligation to help. You can also take the dog and vanish because dogs are property, there's no law to force you to do anything with it let alone notify them. If they are happy with this method then fine but you are now pleased because someone took a gamble on a dog's future. Short story is you wanted what you wanted, weren't interested in a rehoming process unless it went your way. And now you have a dog. You barely knew the dog and are fortunate it worked out. Unfortunately it seems like this has cemented in your mind as the right and reasonable way to do things. BUT Rescues aren't always wrong or weird because they turn down a home. Sometimes they actually care for both the dog and the people. This is a common complaint but it's not your place to decide how long is "too long". If you were rehoming your own dog I'm sure you would take as long as you want to find a home you felt happy with.

Ernie is so cute :)