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With thanks to Ken, SSR and the SSR Family & Friends, Emma, Liv, Linda and Mum. Our sweet vet. All the adopters who understood that ChiChi stayed with me 24/7 and gently greeted her into their home. And thank you Illy at Blacktown Pound. I remember your kindness and trust in me like it was yesterday.

It's been a month, I never wanted to believe this would happen. Gutted isn't a big enough word to describe the feeling. Thank you ChiChi for everything. For being you. For being my light. For memories that hurt right now but will be treasured forever. I love you so much. I'd do anything to bring you back. Please know how much you mean forever and ever. Sorry for not being able to write more, it's too empty here to think.

They haven't said if all the ingredients are from NZ. I am getting suspicious about how imported products are being snuck in such as; on the front it says Made in Australia / Australian Owned / Product of Australia and fine print on the back *from Australian and Imported Ingredients.

I have one here that cost $6000+ I raised a litter of 7 pups, everything premium with no cutting corners and 24/7 by their side. Their adoption fee was a fraction of what they cost to raise and keep their mum healthy, add vetwork to that. If we were donated $8000 it would take very little time to burn through it. But if the rescue doesn't feel right, doesn't just ignore you but block you as well then go with your gut. Look further afield.

Meh. Don't listen to FB online rescue experts :laugh: there's a lot worse going on under their noses, you're just lucky they weren't in a complete flap about your dog being from a breeder. edit: where's the photos? :D you can't mention cone of shame and not share lol

Chemical smell? I haven't seen their renovated setup but if they have used waterproof non porous two-part epoxy type coatings, they do need to cure for a while in good ventilation which does make quite a powerful smell. It's excellent disease control for sealing concrete and brickwork where pathogens live but takes some time to set. I doubt it's ok to be chewed while still soft. Just speculating. :) Maybe someone who has first hand knowledge will post.

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First up: Pet shops suck, and shouldn't be doing live animals. It is an archaic and inadequate treatment of all pets much like the days when zoo animals lived in a tiny concrete cell with metal bars for public amusement. And in the end their lives are basically stock with a use by date. But, almost 20 years ago I was a pet shop employee. And a very good one re hygiene and care. And yes you can quietly put people off certain dogs but you'd better not get caught. Several times, I was yelled at for pups having no water and had to point out that the heavy bowl with blue glaze was in fact spotless and full. Not empty. There's a sick puppy: no it's actually asleep. There's a poo: no we remove poos (can you smell a poo?) that is a chew stick. Everything, even the floors & counters were cleaned with hot water and microcide, we never had the parvo everyone else had had. And your alternative is sell them or they sit in that vile glass box for months deteriorating. I didn't work for a store who does PTS of old pups. And took a few older ones home as my own, because I couldn't stand to watch them jump up and down, up and down, up and down all day. It's no life. And eventually I burned out, my final battle was over a test run for desexing of kittens. They sold for $35 pre-microchipping, no vetcheck, no vaccine and there was no budging on that. It was disgusting and I realised just how little they cared. "Everything has it's price" was a favourite saying. So looking back today, by very name 'pet shop' we would be under considerable fire and were still doing things a whole lot better than some of the current promoted and more socially acceptable ways of getting a pet. That may upset people but it's true, especially now in rescue. The enemy should be anyone who doesn't fulfil a duty of care no matter what they call themselves.

Yep glucose was at the chemist :) it's plain glucose and the bag is bigger than you'll ever use but it's good to have in the dog-stuff collection. I've heard Cerenia is great but I fortunately haven't had to try it yet. Peptosyl is for dogs and horses, non prescription ,kind of a daggy stomach settling liquid and has kind of fallen down the list of tummy options, it's sort of like the chalky old mylanta or that pink stuff Pepto Bismol still popular in the US. But I keep some in the cupboard anyway, in the dog-stuff collection. Just in case. And I'm prepared to wear pink splatters if it's spat out. :laugh: It's definitely not got the properties of Cerenia.

Poor Danny . Are you ok DD? Very sorry if I'm repeating suggestions but every day is going to be different so this is some of mine...it's a helpless feeling when you try so hard with erratic progress. Maxalon injection works well and might be your best alternative to trying oral when you're already battling. If you do go in on a vomity day definitely I'd ask for subcutaneous fluids to make sure he's got a little hydration to combat the vomiting. It makes them feel a little better. The vet may even be able to show you how to do it yourself, not great if you're nervous about needles or if you have a squiggler but it's not hard to do. And I keep a little bag of glucose powder to rub on the gums to knock the edges off any sugar drop they experience from not eating or not keeping enough food down. Nobody ever drinks the lectade or wants nutrigel except for the dogs that are feeling great already. Both are always a fail here for anyone nauseous and I don't blame them really. Peptosyl is hard to get in and easy to get back up (so you may want a prescription PPI) but a great antacid. And I may have missed this but have you asked about whether they can compound any of the meds together?

As do pounds. And some breeders and some rescues Sadly, yes. Probably more than some. Yep I was being politically correct You definitely are.

Yes! But from what I can gather, it's the loopholes and casual usage of 16D. Firstly, proper (aka all the rules they make you agree to when applying) usage is not enforced so there's no qualms about sharing anymore. Secondly you don't actually 'need' it if a pound wants to give you animals so once you have your foot in the door with a borrowed clause then sometimes you use it, sometimes you don't. Anything under 6 months old doesn't need one. Animals under mandatory chipping age don't pose much of a problem. And anything neonate is easy. Like whole litters. eg Use a clause for the mum and get ten bonus 5wk old puppies with no chips. It's the rural pounds being emptied and animals being transported everywhere, to literally anyone incl vanishing over the border. I'm torn about posting a snapshot of an adoption purchase note I was sent. Far out some people are rotten.

Just be careful, isn't set up by the company, it's been set up by someone named Olivia Kmet and judging by the email address for the paypal account, it's hers. Her intentions are probably completely honourable but be sure of who you are donating to. I would not give money to any person who claims to be taking donations. Who on earth is Olivia Kmet and where does she fit in to the scheme of things? There was someone else on Facebook who said they were taking donations but I can't remember the name. The boarding kennel owners insurance will cover the business, both property and loss of income and also their house. I would donate only to the Red Cross and/or the Salvation Army. They'll be at the coal face helping people. I'm sorry but if this is taken as not caring. GoFundMe = Dodgy, non-refundable, and untraceable. Please Beware. They run to take a %, not to protect donors from rorts. & If you're an Australian without relevant state charitable approval or a taxable business your use of crowdfunding is illegal. Paypal will freeze the money forever if they catch you. (not having a go at you viszlamomma, I hope people read here before 'donating') It's totally odd to be collecting for a business anyway. Most states require boarding kennels to have an evacuation plan as well so the whole thing is a preventable waste of life. I'm sad and angry, wishing something was done to prevent it, and could be done now for the pet owners, for the nightmare, and the poor animals. The owners who have to live forever with what has happened to their pets. I can't imagine the grief and sadness they feel. Wishing peace to them all. :heart:

A+ Great site. :) Very legit. I think you might have just had a glitch.

Not referring to the original group at the beginning of the thread, just the broker behind it.

:) More pups going out undesexed and no paperwork? :laugh: All over FB apparently. No matter how much of a show they make of bashing PR. Leopards don't change their spots eh?

The pounds know and haven't done anything. The DLG knows and haven't done anything. Nothing can be done about clauses being used to pull animals for third parties. Clause 16D in the Act doesn't specify desexing, it's only mentioned in the application you make to get one. It's merely a poorly managed record keeping system. And even less can be done when the dog leaves the state. Gone. No record of anything and no way of knowing what happens to them. However, PR do desex for their own adoptions. The $50 will include vetwork. Which is more than can be said for some of the 'rescues' running the same way. We thought PR was bad.... and guess what, it got worse. edit: people are going to be very disappointed when they choose a dog that already has rescue or adoption. It sounds like you can just order a dog but it doesn't work that way. It'll just be the dogs they can't move.

Same. And it happens. And whilst I agree that it's good for buyers to be able to own nice examples of pedigree.. .....Unfortunately puppy farmers are getting pedigree dogs to breed from. So if breeders are doing more than breeding for themselves and aren't desexing/sterilising be prepared to see poorly bred pups... and dogs from your lines being literally 'bred to death'. Then cop the fallout and bad name onto you as registered breeders via farmed purebreds with health problems. e.g FYI Next upcoming 'fad' breed is French Bulldogs and their crosses. Eventually all sorts of mixes will make it to the PTS List.

Have you tried calling recalls.gov.au? I couldn't see anything on their recent list but I don't think it's mandatory for manufacturers to report bad pet food/treats anyway?

Do that. My Vet suggests crate confinement for a 4 weeks min with disc injuries. He checked my SIL's Mareema. He got crated for 5 weeks in the heat of Summer two years ago. Came thro' OK in the end. We've a dog who has just finished two osteo surgeries and I also suggest a crate then graduate to a puppy pen before starting light exercise. After a few days the silly boy was feeling ready to get back to normal especially with pain meds doing their job but he wasn't allowed. :) No matter how much he wagged his tail and gave the puppy-dog eyes. While the medication does control the pain it can also make them less cautious of their injuries.

I'm so sorry DD. Theres nothing worse than that seesaw of them looking hungry, you get it all ready and they sniff & walk away. Begging them to please eat something. I've had moderate success with tin kitten food mixed in (there's none in the cupboard but I'll get the name today at the shops and add the brand name here). Not sure if it's the smell or the smooth consistency but it has worked even mixed in with dry if that's the preference of the hour. Bit embarrassing that it's supermarket stuff but hey, if they finally eat I'm happy. And a tablet in a teeny blob of liverwurst. Again, I'm sure it's the smell but for me I like that you only need enough to coat the tablet and it's so sticky they can't separate the pill from the treat. I've still had to resort to the syringe, I just hate the struggle when they know what's coming. I did also come up with a pureed cooked chicken meat with it's own gelatine added and some marscapone to make it smooth and palatable. Tango only ate it for a few days but it helped. edit to add the kitten food: this brand and this flavour, only this one was a success - never any of the others!

I thought I'd join in with a couple of my guys from this Christmas :) Not the best photos but they are such a pair of sweeties and will be in their new homes before next Christmas and I will always have these happy snaps. Bertie Beetle (Bertrand) Alice Kisses (before - click thumbnail)

Sory I didn't even think of checking the gofundme link RIP dear old boy.

Is it true he died? What happened?

I hope that's just a hernia Can someone please update if he finds rescue