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I agree on second opinion. It could still even be a very tiny hole in his palate that you can't easily see. Then there's weird things like fungal, nasal mite, botfly, an abscess. He's had some really good care since he came to you but you don't know what he was exposed to before that or if his immune system is what it should be yet. Get better Baz!

I can't believe he's a key note speaker with Tim Vas and Aaron Timoshanko. :laugh:

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Do you mean Ichthammol (Black Ointment) drawing ointment or Black Salve the dodgy skin cancer cure? Very different and as far as I know the salve has a lot of critics re scarring and skin corrosion but I don't know much about it other than that.

Lola wants the shelter closed?

Yep the sliding door inserts (Pig In Mud is another brand) or replace the smaller glass window with wood or laminate. Finding a glazier to cut a large hole in the window will be harder than trying to find someone who will cut the cat size one. Most say no, or they'll try but can't be held responsible for broken glass. :laugh: From memory, none will cut into safety glass if that's what you have. I'd make sure the room he can access via the dog door is lockable in case you have any thieves stupid enough to follow a large dog into his own home.

Deep down I guess I know that Blueylove, yes she would have to be aware by now. It's just so sad to watch.

I get the impression that Lola may be as blinded as the rest of Mark's supporters. If she could see just how much damage he is doing I am sure she would have shut him up by now, especially considering the way he has obviously been acting and speaking towards the people that have stuck by her for so long but there has been nothing. That would be even worse. And I'm not making excuses but she is an older lady, living in the country spending most of her time out in the shelter and this is a huge generalisation because I've just gotten back from visiting country relatives who do have emails and internet etc.....but that generation don't always 'get' social media. They don't get the nutters, the grandstanders, the viral nature of it or the damage that can be done when things snowball. Up to this, it was probably just a useful medium to advertise the animals. Now it's a campaign with legs of it's own being driven by one guy and his new fans. Here's hoping that a fraction of the ones who shout the loudest are getting off their bums and physically helping those animals instead of just talking about it. Mark maybe you could put the cowboy boots aside and go scoop some poop. :D

OMG, just catching up now. What a shocking mess. Imagine how far you'd have to push a person who has been volunteering for so long to pull down a rescue's website. Mark is doing nothing positive for those animals with his mismanaged social media campaign/political soapbox. Absolutely nothing at all. Can't their legal put a restraining order in place!

They fully vetwork with adoptions now so he may not be up to going through that at this point in time.

He is release to owner or rescue only so you can't adopt him direct, which probably means he's really showing signs of his age. Ask the girls on 'Friends of Hawkesbury Companion Animal Shelter' on Facebook for more info.

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:cheer: I just wanted to congratulate everyone all at once. Well done! It must have been a hard choice, all awesome nominees again this year. Master Breeder of the Year - Sheila Marchant - Safaree Shetland Sheepdogs DOL: ShesaLikeableBiBear Master Responsible Pet Owner of the Year - Emma Lee Jordan Master Canine Rescuer of the Year - Heather Robey – Adelaide All Breed Dog Rescue (AABDR) DOL: Miss Squish Master Professional of the Year - Judi Buchan - Pro-K9 Dog Training - www.prok9.com.au Breeder of the Year - Kerry Wyburd - Kerris Havenese Responsible Pet Owner of the Year - Sally Evans Canine Rescuer of the Year - Amanda Scott – Labradog Rescue Canine Foster Carer of the Year - Kelly Halstead - Adelaide All Breeds Dog Rescue Pet Sitter/Walker of the Year - Chris Mahney – Barks in the Park Most Supportive Vet of the Year - Bruce Syme - Vets All Natural Animal Health Vet Nurse /Receptionist of the Year - Michelle Jurkow – Wingham Valley Vets Canine Specialist Service Provider of the Year - Suzie Drake – Therapetics Canine Groomer of the Year - Bed and Biscuits Canine Trainer of the Year - Pauline Gill DOL: Tapua MDBA Student of the Year - Pam Taylor – Introduction To Canine Breeding Dog related Website of the Year - www.poochto5k.com Excellence in Contribution and/or Leadership in Canine Affairs - Peter Crumblin - Aussie Farm 4 Kids Boarding Kennel of the Year - Samford Pet Resort QLD Pet Transport Service of the Year - Dogtainers Pet Transport - Sydney MDBA Pacers Award for Excellence in Service - Lesley Stewart Canine Related Publication of the Year - Urban Animal Canine Supply Retail Outlet of the Year - Jenni Haskard Canine Photographer/Artist of the Year - Alex Cearns – www.houndstoothstudio.com.au Pet Insurance Provider of the Year - Petplan Australasia Pty Ltd Canine Friendly Tourist destination of the Year - Best Friends Holiday Retreat Canine related product of the Year - Cooling Vests – Silver Eagle Canine related service provider of the Year - Pets At Peace - Central West Dianne Gunn-Scarcella Memorial Award - Lesley Stewart LINKY (sorry I don't know everyone's DOL names so you might have to help me there)

Have a look in the In Loving Memory section - that has more info on how they are killed Thanks MM. x

We need an independent Ombudsman service for animal welfare. And this poor old bloke. If he was a 'horse hoarder' why run in and crush him? It's been agreed (Tufts HARC) you need a multi pronged approach to helping the individual and the affected animals. Having a doco made about him, no matter how sympathetic doesn't exactly prepare an elderly man for the crazies of social media taking it on as their mission in life. Most of whom seem to love the RSPCA one minute and hate them the next depending on the latest viral campaign.

That seems to be top of the list, education owners and getting better care, vetwork, socialisation etc. Then surrender if the owner will decide it's all too hard. So it doesn't really say but the nicer setups might be properties they were working on. The bit I don't understand is where the dogs are - killed for non registration. I guess they got off their chain and were unclaimed? edited because I can't spell

Have you been to the shelter? Genuine question, because I have not.

Oh, Dol's newest member is Mark Aldridge. :)

Slightly OT but.... I always found Helen to be an extremely reasonable person particularly when she was trying to stop NSW dogs being left at the shelter because unprepared families were having them shipped to them by a "rescue". She could have gone off her head but handled everything very sensibly and wasn't interested in getting the crazies involved. Anyway, they will do much better without Mark's input on the whole thing. When he gets on his bicycle and peddles off into the sunset Moorook might actually be able to put a lid on the hysterics. Still, I don't know the shelter but hope for a quiet resolution that benefits the animals only. Not someone's political aspirations.

Rachelle, it would be a good idea to state on your petrescue listings that pups are available at 12 weeks. I've not once seen pups advertised there without their eyes open yet. edited to add a question How does this work exactly? Is the mother in your name so you can take the pups and desex her then give her back? If not, then you do not own the mother meaning you have no legal ownership of the puppies you are advertising. And you cannot make their owners surrender them or enforce a verbal agreement to vetwork or rehome any of them. These are the same pups as the ones on petrescue. Eyes still closed and unless the mother is chipped to you - not your property to be advertising. This isn't meant to be combative but you've made a public statement here that doesn't explain how this setup works or how you prevent the owners selling the (entire) pups themselves after you've sent interested parties to go meet them.

Thank you. I feel really defeated to have lost him but I know he was loved and cared for.

Perhaps I wasn't as clear as I thought. I stated my thoughts, not what I think other people ought to be doing. I have no interest in you, a group I've never heard of, or a Facebook page I can't see. I actually defended your right to ask a question in an old thread. AND agreed that someone flying the rescue flag should be ok with reasonable questions. So thanks for that.

That's lillypilly's choice T. Saying I prefer to see things first hand isn't a backhander about being mislead by anyone. Remember, "I heard" is the way rumours take on a life of their own. So that's where I've drawn my line. First hand or not at all. This thread was started months ago and has comments from several others regarding their confidence in the setup, nobody accused the OP or anyone else of a witch hunt so one new member asking a question doesn't constitute a witch hunt either. And frankly right now I really don't care enough to debate if this 'rescue' is dodgy or awesome or has a mentor or if there's some kind of grudge or who's in the right. If jusdeb doesn't want her on her page she doesn't have to. Simples.

Darling Percy. He was with me for a year and has left such an empty space. He settled in like he'd always lived here, he also had all the usual daily maintenance wobbly old man things happening and was retired into permanent care. We enjoyed days in the garden or a shuffle in the park, mostly Percy loved his doggy stairs up onto the sofa, from there he could claim the best spot. He had a collection of his favourite coral fleece blankets and a wardrobe of clothes that had to be straight out of the clothes dryer before he'd let me dress him. Very suddenly, his body began to fail him and we had to say goodbye forever. You can't hold back time but I hope his last year on earth was the best. Goodbye beautiful. I miss your happy little morning dance and your clever way of slowly inching your way onto my lap with nobody realising they were being slid off onto the sofa. :) And your champion speed at working the IQ puzzle toy to get out your favourite snacks. Cheeky boy. I'll see you again one day and promise to have my pockets stuffed full of roo treats. Missed by us all. xxxxxx Anna Percy at the pound Percy in the car the day he got out. Percy's first and last christmas with us. :heart:

I don't take a stranger's word for anything without seeing with my own eyes. & Calling yourself a rescue doesn't mean nobody can ask questions or that you can give someone a gobful when they do. If she was a byb doing the same thing people would be outraged. Jusdeb, your page your rules, don't stress over it and give her the flick. There's a thousand other places she can take her puppies. (btw People don't dredge up old threads on purpose. Google brings them, I don't even look at dates myself.)