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It may be relevant (sorry if it's been brought up already) ...NSW Govt is looking at amalgamating councils into 'Super Councils'. So what your council says now, may be completely different later.

Dogs need to be weaned off Lovan gradually. Please let them know he was taking it.

Which is what I was trying to point out several posts ago but apparently that includes addressing the possibility of martian dognappers. :laugh:

Tryhard dogfight idiots who read the newspaper? eta OK, here's a story I don't really want to repeat Hand on heart, many years ago I personally met a man who had been reduced to buying guinea pigs to blood his dingoes with. He started off with cheap or free pups (in those days you could buy a large crossbreed pup for $75 - $95 retail if you were desperate). His name and face became known, he was watched and moved on to easier obtained and concealed FTHG kittens or rabbits. He couldn't explain why his dingoes needed live animals. Some crap about keeping them antsy and alert and it being the best thing for them. In truth he was just a disgusting pig and a sadist. So yes there are other reasons animals are stolen. Not all involve bull breeds or fighting but few are pleasant. People can be sick. If you can't absolutely rule out dog fighting except by anecdotal statements and a few stats then you have to look at it as one of many possible scenarios.

The idea that you have to blood a dog so it'll get the taste for prey has been around long before articles about bait dogs started. You can't blame the media solely for an old chestnut that's been passed by word of mouth for years. If it's been warped to suit the current times, picked up and regurgitated then that's something else. But it's been folklore for a lot longer.

I've just seen Chi's piccies in the breeder section. It's very unfair of you Gapvic to post them there where I can't comment. Want want :love: gorgeous little micro greyhound. I'm so glad she's doing well. :)

I've only ever heard of them by seeing their symbol on the Renbury site.

You can buy parvac (parvo only) and a kennel cough one (and some cat ones) but you aren't allowed to do other people's animals as far as I know and you don't get the certificate. Dogs should go the the vet anyway, a good vet does more than just pop a vaccine in and send you home till next year so if you'e going to spend the money, get a good vet and have a yearly checkup.

Here we go. Media beat up. Frankly, I find it hard to not get passionate about someone being bailed up by several large dogs. Hard to imagine a much more terrifying situation. What a shame the man wasn't mauled to death, then maybe it would be worth getting a bit heated and passionate about it, hey? Why don't you try it and see how you fare. Good point but not admissible in Court based on the evidence presented here. It could have been set up. Maybe he hurt his arm somewhere else, knew the dogs, and is stiching someone up to pay the costs. What an odd thing to say. Anyway, yeah..because DOL chat and a grainy video is clearly all they'll present in court ... and I'm sure a good solicitor will be able to prove that the guy owned the dogs himself, paid the witnesses not to interfere, and was just trying to get a few days sick leave from work. resisting the urge to say more because I've seen these posts before and they seem to be on a different plane of existence.

"Freedom of Information" isn't all that easy either. I worked on a matter that required information via Freedom of Information and I had to shell out something in the vicinity of $300.00 (if I remember correctly). It certainly wasn't "free". All well and good if I had a spare several $M dollars to dip into as the RSPCA has. Yes I believe that is the case. Lots of processing fees. Begins with a $25 application and goes up from there I suppose rspcavic FOI ETA: and I'm sure just because you ask, you don't necessarily receive.

Faaar out, I just watched the video. All I can say is those dogs weren't playing, they were becoming aroused, in a pack. That man was very lucky to have a barrier behind him and be strong enough to stay on his feet.

RIP May Thank you Nic for visiting her. Giving comfort to a dear old dog so close to the end.

I don't understand the breeder side but if I were looking for a puppy, it would make the process a little clearer. How would I know what to ask about health testing? How would find a dog whose parents and breeders work on e.g agility instead of just picking the breed I think would be suitable? Or even know if all the people I email to find a puppy aren't actually having litters that year? There's been so many "Help Me" threads here when someone gets a dog with issues that they had no idea needed to be taken into the equation when they first started looking. Not everyone advertises on DOL apparently, and there's nothing wrong with tidying up the listings that haven't been touched (I've found a few whose websites don't exist anymore for example) or offering a better, clearer way for people to find the dog they want and is suited to them.

Oh dear, this isn't going to end well. :(

Juice if you read it they weren't my dogs. Someone deliberately let the dogs out. Sadly they were told they can't have a lock on their gate as it needed to be left available for services to get in and out such as meter readings. THey have now been told the correct info but they have just moved into this house and sadly lost a very much loved member of their family. Thanks for your imput. Hope it never happens to a furbaby in your family. OMG that's exactly what I had in a rented house in Canberra. I can't remember what it was in the yard, some concrete thing that workmen had to have unrestricted access to, so no padlock, whenever they felt like it and the more secure you made the gate the more annoyed they would get (like I had bricks under the gap so my little dog couldn't get under when she was in the yard and they would boot the bricks a couple of feet away for no reason) and end up just leaving the gate flapping open most times. I'm so sorry for your friends K. RIP little dog.

NSW: I believed a dog was technically stolen because it had been left with someone for 7 days and the owner didn't return (apparently), dog was being sold but it had no chip and owner didn't return calls or report it as stolen so nothing could be done except tell the seller off for not chipping. It was weird and I still wonder why nobody felt they could do anything about it without locating this mysterious owner.

Vets should take them if they can but aren't obliged to unless they've applied to be a legal holding point (can't remember what the name is exactly). NSW Rule is the animal must get to a ranger or pound in 24 hrs and if the vet won't help then it's the finder's responsibility. So the advice you got, to take it back to where you found it is simply idiotic and dangerous. After hours some pounds have holding pens, if they are locked, the police have a key and can put a stray in to keep it safe until opening hours. p.s. TD, my area borders on two pounds. If they run one way it's City of Sydney who send them to the Shire, if they run the other way it's SDCH. So you have to check both. x

Oh yes, thank goodness! Hadn't thought of urban myth. There's an entry in Snopes but it sounds like dogs have been seriously harmed. Sickos

Sabbath as far as I know they are highly mobile, hard to catch. Back paddocks, empty sheds or abandoned warehouses (could be urban myth but that's what people think they're using in Sydney). They pick up and move. It's too late to pursue them after the dogs are being stolen. This is an assumption, but apart from sourcing dogs and running bets you'd really not have to be a mastermind. Dogs can be hidden in plain sight, easy to move around and in the event you get caught with a perfectly alive unharmed (yet) stolen one it's a slap on the wrist.

Unless the owner is found and makes a police report about theft it will be hard to get the police to take action AFAIK. Has anyone found they've had a different experience?

It's OK oakaway, it might sound scary but there is no law so whatever was said is just...ideas.... if you can find the wording somewhere I'd be very interested to read it. Look more closely at the NSW Companion Animal Taskforce, that's something to be taken very seriously if you're a breeder.

You said you support them !!!!!. Well that means you are against all the States Controlling Bodies that have legally Registered Pure Bred Breeders because Oscars Law does not differentiate between them and Puppy Farmers. You can't support both. You can't know who it differentiates between because there is no law and no draft. You may have seen a supporter spout off about all breeders but ask OL themselves.

Oi I bought the t-shirt :laugh: you can't blame a gal for having good intentions. Admittedly I've only had one person ask wtf it was but that's ok. I really don't wear it much because it shows off my muffin tops and currently I'm not wanting FB warriors speaking for me.

Very strongly. You could be right about the unofficial policies but we're never going to know unless a 'law' is drafted. And I still want to see that happen because I do like the idea in principle (yep I know that's a repeat). At one time all supporters were asked to remove the Wantsoscarslaw from their FB middle names because some were going off like pork chops. I realise you need a huge community base to get some momentum but like with Moorook atm, it can get very muddy and emotional when everyone jumps in shouting.

Fuzzy82, yes I have seen the statement many times from the OL camp re getting a dog from either responsible rescue or an ethical breeder. Of course this minor detail is seemingly unknown to some supporters because they haven't bothered reading what's in front of them. :laugh: