jacqui835 Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 My dream is to one day get here with my own dogs - first lab I've ever seen competing, and doing very well to boot. My link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suziwong66 Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 My dream is to one day get here with my own dogs - first lab I've ever seen competing, and doing very well to boot. My link the link won't work for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasels Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 (edited) Try Edited August 13, 2011 by Weasels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swizzlestick Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 (edited) Nor me. ETA: Thanks weasels. Edited August 13, 2011 by Sir WJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacqui835 Posted August 13, 2011 Author Share Posted August 13, 2011 Thanks sorry not sure what happened there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasels Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Thanks sorry not sure what happened there. You just had "http:/" at the start twice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgrubber Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 It looks to me like Duke has been taught "Protection" as a game (tail wagging, no barred teeth). This is the only way you should be able to get a Lab to approach such things. The Lab's job in society, and the widespread love the breed inspires, are associated with gentleness. . . . I hope Duke is a one off and doesn't start a trend. As for the associated links, the 'Terriable Lab Attack" (of a stuffed animal) is more typical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Jones Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 It is rare but Labs have been trained as dual purpose police dogs in a few different countries. I have trained a couple for protection work in Australia a few years ago. The main problem is due to the stereotype Labradors have as being friendly dogs they do fail as being a effective visual deterrent to most people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I reckon my Lab girl would be good at that... she's definitely got more of the "go" required than your average Lab. As for my Rotti/Pittie... she'd look the part, but doesn't have the "go" factor... *grin* I haven't met very many Labs that conform to the stereotype... most of them have been more like the Marley of legend... mine included... lol! OK - the older and fat ones conform to the stereotype, but I'm seeing less of those lately (thank Dog!)... T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgrubber Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Just seem wrong to take a breed that was bred for a soft mouth and train it to bite and pull. Like putting staffies on a racetrack (ok, that's great for a laugh) . . . or having a daschund pull a cart (that would be pretty funny too). I know it can be done. I've had puppy buyers who allowed the Lab puppy to play run/chase in the land shark phase of puppy development and ended out with a dog that bites hard in play. I'm sure that 'get the bad guy' can be presented as play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Did you mean that you liked the obedience work?? His work was ok but none of it was very precise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacqui835 Posted August 14, 2011 Author Share Posted August 14, 2011 Oh the obedience and also how fit and agile the lab was. If you compare the video to one with a malinois you can see the bite work isn't there but it's just nice to see what can be achieved if you try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 My lab competes in obedience, he got his CCD about 2 months ago and im training him to go further. He is a taller thinner lab than most Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roguedog Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 nice lab and nice work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 My Lab could definitely do the bite work... my Rotti/Pittie has the scars to prove it... *sigh* The Lab in the video certainly looked great - fit and healthy - just as a Lab should... T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Oh the obedience and also how fit and agile the lab was. If you compare the video to one with a malinois you can see the bite work isn't there but it's just nice to see what can be achieved if you try You'd be impressed if you watched some Labs doing retrieving, especially the working lines. Fit, agile, runs full pelt like the Lab in that video. I enjoyed watching the speed and enthusiasm that the Lab in the video had, but didn't enjoy the bitework (though as sandgrubber mentioned, looks like a big game to the Lab as his tail never stops wagging!) And his change of positions obedience work, rather messy with creeping forward so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgrubber Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 (edited) I appreciate good recall. It's critical for retrieving . . . and for allowing the dog to go off line. Don't specially like the dog. I have nothing against tall, lanky Labs, and if you want to do dog sports, especially agility or jumping, with a Lab, I'd say they're great. But they are far removed from the original Labs . . . I suspect they come out of outcrossing done to get better performance in retrieving trials that included fence jumping, and where speed was critical. As for the 'old' part of 'old fat Labs'. All breeds get old. Labs are inclined to thicken with age. Attached are a couple shots of early Labs. Photography wasn't great at action shots in those days . . . so no surprise that they're oldies and stationary. But to the best I can figure out, the Lesser St. John's dog, from which the Lab was derived, was solidly built, and endowed to work in cold water. I've spent an hour trying to attach two .jpg files showing early Labs. I'm going to post this without them and try to put the photos in a second post. p.s. OMG the photos showed up in the post. The first is 'Nell', said to be the first photo of a Lab . . .1856. The second is BuccleuchAvon, 1885. Lab historians agree that Buccleuch Kennels was the central kennel in the establishment of the Labrador as a breed. Edited August 14, 2011 by sandgrubber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Oh the obedience and also how fit and agile the lab was. If you compare the video to one with a malinois you can see the bite work isn't there but it's just nice to see what can be achieved if you try You'd be impressed if you watched some Labs doing retrieving, especially the working lines. Fit, agile, runs full pelt like the Lab in that video. I enjoyed watching the speed and enthusiasm that the Lab in the video had, but didn't enjoy the bitework (though as sandgrubber mentioned, looks like a big game to the Lab as his tail never stops wagging!) And his change of positions obedience work, rather messy with creeping forward so much! I thought the same thing with the change of positions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyBlue Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 The police will take male black labs for general duties including manwork and smaller females for more traditional roles (eg drug searches). Im sure a yellow could do it too but there is this community perception that they are more friendly. (as was discussed in the black dog thread) From the vic police dog squad page "http://www.police.vic.gov.au/content.asp?Document_ID=171" "General purpose dogs General purpose dogs are skilled in the areas of tracking, searching and protecting life and property. Handlers and their dogs often work from home within an allocated police district. The dogs used are male German Shepherds and Labradors as they are physically strong, are of a good size and often need to be aggressive. The greatest demand for dogs is at night when a dog's acute sense of smell is most needed. However, there is a 24-hour roster for general-purpose dog teams to ensure there is always at least one team on duty. Narcotics detection dogs Narcotics detection dogs search houses, cars or personal belongings. Female German Shepherds and Labradors are preferred for this type of work, as their smaller frame is more suited to work in confined spaces. Handlers and dogs predominantly work on an appointment basis for stations or specialised units requiring the expertise of a dog. Consequently, they can be called upon night or day." I have no doubt they could do it - lest you lay a hand on me or my anyone in my family when my last lab was around, on occasion we were startled by friends/family and he showed his willingness to protect (didnt muck around with it either). And you'd have to have nerves of steal to get onto my property with my current lab, shes all bluff but certainly puts on a show. My neighbour has two goldens and you wont ever catch me going round there unannounced (death by golden would be embarrasing). The dog in the video was sloppy but thats more to do with training than because he was a lab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angeluca Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 (edited) (death by golden would be embarrasing). LMAO! yes , yes it would be I have 3 goldens a 3yr, a 11mth and a 3 mth. not one would hesitate in licking anyone to death. Been such a change in dog to what i'm used to as they seem so mush more emotionally vulnerable . Growing up we had shepherds and rotties. tho I do miss the integrity of sheps and rotties. But enjoying the different pace of life with my goldens. Edited August 15, 2011 by Angeluca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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