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Now there's a job I could happily throw away my current one for... Doggy Daycare Attendant.

Look at how happy Miss Roo looks with her mates at daycare... and I think she's possibly the prettiest one in the whole place!

Thanks for the updates regarding the work you have still to do with Nekh... sending calm vibes for the lovely Roo so she relearns that being at home without Mummy isn't such a bad thing (and that Mummy always comes back)

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Haha her face markings are the like the bull terrier version of the Bernese? (not good with breeds) sitting next to her. I'm fascinated with this doggy day care idea. I'm sure it would have been like bottled water when it first came out....people laughed and said why would you buy water when it's free out a tap. So you take her and she spends the day with a bunch if other dogs. Do they have a garden area or go walking during the day? Do you get an end of year concert???????

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Daycare pic from today.Can't wait to get home and see Roo's little paintbrush striped snout.

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These photos are gorgeous. Keep them coming, Jelly.

I wonder if there's by chance a pretty much laid-back group of dogs attending that centre. So the doggie 'signals' tend to be relaxed.

I'm still interested that Roo didn't like the first place tried. It's sheer speculation, but I wonder if it had anything to do with that particular mix of dogs.

The youngish Labrador of people I know, was asked to leave his daycare after a few sessions. The reason given was that he was 'too annoying' to the other dogs. That centre, which didn't want for potential clients, seemed to screen out any that seriously affected the group dynamics.

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In terms of strategies to improve things at home Mita, Nekh and I have a plan, it involves work with the new crate (untested) further work by me in line with strategies discussed with Nekh - this is constantly improving as there are so many triggers that there is always a new one to work on, professional assessment of Roo in home environment. Plus monitoring effect of reduced meds. So we have lots to do - and still lots to try. The details and specifics are really for Nekh and I to discuss but they are the broad things.

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I posted again in this thread, because on 24 March you indicated that the original symptoms are still there. I was the only person who responded. Also when you posted following, that you felt you haven't achieved for Roo, I responded that your observations & seeking successful daycare, were invaluable.

"The downside to that is, I guess, realising that the meds are not enough. She does still self harm when home alone on meds. I can tell by the video and also the state of her teeth when I get home - they have silver on them from the steel doors when she's been harming, plus the state of her throat, which she scratches till it bleeds."

I don't want to put any stress on you. I know only too well myself the daily dealing with a 'stubborn' and worrying 'home alone' problem. And with your sharp-eyed observations & commitment, you're Roo's ally. You are also, in no way, answerable to me.

The distress of a self-injuring dog is being posted publicly, so it's reasonable there's interest about attempts to remediate.

I was given a clear plan, for our furniture ripping dog, (based on one diagnositc interview & my observations as owner), with reasons given for the point of the strategies, by the UQ vet. Fitted on a page and a bit. I was able to start on them, immediately. Was told to be persistent & consistent. And had no worries, then or ever, sharing them with others, if asked.

Case studies spread knowledge & skills. The questions I posed were to Nekh. ADDED who I think is gutsy to put hand up to help. As owners, like Jelly, are gutsy to stand by their dogs.

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One of my friends works at the daycare that Roo goes to - I love seeing her pop up in my facebook feed! I have been following this thread and when I first saw her on my facebook I did a huge double take... but it was her! :D

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Look at how happy Miss Roo looks with her mates at daycare... and I think she's possibly the prettiest one in the whole place!

POSSIBLY?!?! :laugh:

Haha her face markings are the like the bull terrier version of the Bernese? (not good with breeds) sitting next to her. I'm fascinated with this doggy day care idea. I'm sure it would have been like bottled water when it first came out....people laughed and said why would you buy water when it's free out a tap. So you take her and she spends the day with a bunch if other dogs. Do they have a garden area or go walking during the day? Do you get an end of year concert???????

Ha! Would love an end of year concert! They could howl in unison... They sure do go walking during the day, they are next to a huuuuuge off leash park and go for a romp together each day, they have an outside yard also.

These photos are gorgeous. Keep them coming, Jelly.

I wonder if there's by chance a pretty much laid-back group of dogs attending that centre. So the doggie 'signals' tend to be relaxed.

I'm still interested that Roo didn't like the first place tried. It's sheer speculation, but I wonder if it had anything to do with that particular mix of dogs.

Thanks Mita :) Could be a laid back group, although it's different dogs each day. I think the staff have heaps to do with all - all of them trainers.

I know (or am pretty sure) why Roo didn't like the other place. It ended up getting shut down by council - too many dogs, unqualified staff paid too little, dogs left together unsupervised, owners told they got daily walks but they didn't, yelled at them etc. I didn't know any of this at the time - front office staff were always lovely - but the local paper did a story on them.

Also thanks for your continued comments throughout the thread, you've been with Roo and I from the start (with many others too) I remember you suggesting Dr Carter for me, who is Roo's vet - comment from you is always considered and very welcome :)

SO!!! Tonight Roo and I were Roo-united!!! So exciting. For me anyway, she is tuckered out. Here's todays daycare pics, of her and another one of a random dog that is just too cute not to share!

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Hi gang. Feeling sad today. We had a setback - left Roo out in the courtyard while I went to Easter lunch for a couple of hours. She was on meds, maximum dose, but still panicked. Jumpipng at the doors non stop. I have a video but not posting as too sad for some to see. The meds don't work. Can't leave her like this during the week next week now, so will book her in to daycare four days and work out next step.....

Poor little thing.

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Is she on clomicalm? Clomicalm did NOTHING for my dog. :( While I agree meds might not be what Roo needs, I believe that the latest recommended drug for anxiety and anxious behaviour is Prozac. We had a specialist animal behaviourist speak at our work a few weeks ago and she said that was what she would use for a dog with SA.

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My boy is on Prozac, within a week his sep Anx had quietened enough I could go to the bathroom by myself and he was okay to stay with my son if I went out. I dropped him a quarter of a tablet a few weeks ago and he's back to crying if I go out even though he sits with my son. His reactivity is improving despite the drop in dosage.

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She was on meds, maximum dose, but still panicked.

Sorry to hear of this set-back.

Has she been on a reduced dose until today? There is a cumulative effect, so temporarily upping the dose won't give you much of a dose-response effect. On that note, it can take 6-8 weeks to see any effect of the drug at all (it's not like taking valium, for a comparative example).

Unfortunately, some dogs do not respond. Most dogs improve a lot, some dogs improve a little, some dogs don't improve at all. Some dogs respond better to other anti-depressants/anxiolytics.

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