twodoggies2001 Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 Man. This makes me look so slack, puddles are made for drinking and running through, always have towels in the car for a dry off and if not it falls out as they dry, they eat anything and everything under the sun, always trying new meat and they sample most veg and sniffing and playing at the park are all encouraged where appropriate. Ah well! Each to their own and we certainly get by! Hey Steph. You sound like me lol. Park time is fun time for us too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) I don't know, what does "being a dog" really mean? I don't let my dogs play with other dogs and I don't generally say yes if people ask to pat them. My dogs don't have free run in my house. There's a lot of things I restrict them from doing or allow them to do that goes against the grain. I don't desex, vaccinate yearly and I feed a raw diet too... :laugh: Edited March 12, 2014 by huski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raineth Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 well no, I don't think that's a great diet either, there's no calcium in it for one thing. I tend to feel sorry for the dogs who are not really part of the family and never get out of the backyard. I also feel sorry for the fluffy dogs I see who are very matted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I don't really see why anyone should feel sorry for the dog. My walks are pretty regimented too. No playing with other dogs, walks next to me with no sniffing except at certain sniff n pee spots when I give the ok, and why walk them through mud/a puddle if you can go around? Agree, we are out for a walk, for exercise, they can play all they like at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dory the Doted One Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 As far as the Vet advocating the diet, it wouldn't surprise me if the vet said that those were ok to feed, but to add some commercial food too. And what the owner heard was..."Wow! Excellent choice. Keep doing that!!" Seen and heard it so many times. Owners hear what they want then the flick off their ears to the stuff they don't want to. Then when you see them at the counter it's like a twilight zone episode where you wonder if you were in the same room but a different dimensions and a part of two different conversations. My lot have a similar life as yours Steph. Very 'earthy'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph M Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I don't know, what does "being a dog" really mean? I don't let my dogs play with other dogs and I don't generally say yes if people ask to pat them. My dogs don't have free run in my house. There's a lot of things I restrict them from doing or allow them to do that goes against the grain. I don't desex, vaccinate yearly and I feed a raw diet too... :laugh: And i'm sure in lots of circles that could all be construed poorly. Whatever works for you and yours! It'd be kind of like condemning a person for having a set of beliefs to say flat out 'no, you're doing it wrong' It was obviously correct in their eyes at some point, perhaps not mine or yours but if he's happy enough and healthy enough what the hey. Dogs live on much worse and much less in many households. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph M Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 My lot have a similar life as yours Steph. Very 'earthy'. I assume you mean 'mud spattered' haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I don't really see why anyone should feel sorry for the dog. My walks are pretty regimented too. No playing with other dogs, walks next to me with no sniffing except at certain sniff n pee spots when I give the ok, and why walk them through mud/a puddle if you can go around? Agree, we are out for a walk, for exercise, they can play all they like at home. When I was in the city ..walks were walks ..no toileting/sniffing etc unless I said . free running was different ...walks on lead were not for mucking around ....we were both there to do a brisk walk ;) as for feeding - my vet used to prescribe brown rice/different meats and veges for older dogs with arthritis ... I remember one lady with a little poodle loved the difference it made to her dog, so she went onto that food as well, and was very happy :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 And i'm sure in lots of circles that could all be construed poorly. Maybe... and if people want to push it or argue with the way my dogs are raised and trained my standard response is "show me your dog" ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph M Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 And i'm sure in lots of circles that could all be construed poorly. Maybe... and if people want to push it or argue with the way my dogs are raised and trained my standard response is "show me your dog" ;) Haha. I wasn't saying I'm one of them, I often take note of your posts with awe, but we certainly operate differently and we go OK in our own way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) And i'm sure in lots of circles that could all be construed poorly. Maybe... and if people want to push it or argue with the way my dogs are raised and trained my standard response is "show me your dog" ;) Haha. I wasn't saying I'm one of them, I often take note of your posts with awe, but we certainly operate differently and we go OK in our own way! I didn't think you were - nothing to be in awe of with me, but my dogs are pretty awesome. :p :p :p Everyone has different standards and goals for their dogs - as long as it works for you, and doesn't cause any problems then there's no reason to change. We all want to enjoy our dogs and what creates joy for one person can differ for the next. Edited March 12, 2014 by huski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboo Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 While I do expect my dog to be able to walk calmly and politely beside me in busy or riskier situations, most of our walks are for his enjoyment . If that includes regular pee stops, sniffs, and sometimes interactions with dogs that I judge to be friendly then so be it. This afternoon he played fetch in the river. That's why the back of my wagon has a dog blanket. I tend to feel a wet muddy dog is a happy dog in my case , and watching him play in his own way makes me happy. My priorities might be different though if I had a heavy coated dog instead of a fairly lightly coated border collie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Clover Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 At least the "poor dog" is getting fed and walked & goes to the vet. There are plenty of dogs that don't even get that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodoggies2001 Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 Sure, the dog is being walked and comes to the park to interact and play, (owners words), gets fed and is indeed, very much loved, but I see that he is henpecked. Parents who feed their kids junk food daily instead of nutritious meals don't love their kids any less but just don't know. In my own case, I want my dogs to come when they're called and behave appropriately not be heavily regimented, and believe me, they are not monsters in disguise, and that's my choice. They too are well fed, get taken to the vet when needed and on an annual checkup basis. Two owners with beloved pets who couldn't be more different in the upbringing of our pets. I want them to have the freedom, in the right circumstances to behave like dogs and enjoy their lives. They are not my children nor are they my toys. Going to the park is an extension of our bonding, and it's our time. At home, they have the freedom of the whole house and I am proud to report that they have never inflicted any damage here. I learnt several years ago when we were living in a brand new house that my husband built with the intention of selling and kept several doors closed so that the dogs couldn't venture there. When they did get the chance to enter, they marked the carpet. Both dogs know what is expected of them and they act accordingly. I am by no means an expert, but I must be doing something right, as I have two well adjusted, well socialised and above all two happy boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 While I do expect my dog to be able to walk calmly and politely beside me in busy or riskier situations, most of our walks are for his enjoyment . If that includes regular pee stops, sniffs, and sometimes interactions with dogs that I judge to be friendly then so be it. Yes this ^. That's exactly the way I feel. I expect my dogs to be well behaved and to respond to my commands but I want them to enjoy their walks. I don't expect my dogs to behave like programmed robots. They enjoy full run of the house and yard. My deaf dog is a bit of a challenge but we're getting there, slowly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I am not saying that dogs which run/sniff etc are monsters, or undisciplined or behaving 'wrongly', at all ...every single dog owner has a different way of interacting with their dog/s To each his own :) Dogs I had in the city certainly had their swimming/mud puddle times/chasing ducks/playing -zoomies-on-the-beach times ..but walking was working ..not toileting/playing :) .guess it was all my years of training guide dogs , who needed to concentrate on what was ahead of them ,and what their owner's body language was ..no room for distractions ...at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Walks here is for walks not social outings ,sniffing & peeing .I don't allow my dogs to think peeing up everything in public is acceptable . My dogs have other outlets to play & interact but not on there walks & i believe the greater majority of dog owners follow that plan aswell & see no issues with owners who do this . Infact i got feed up walking my dogs in some areas where other people thought it was there right for there dogs to interact with mine or play & then get all high & mighty when i would say no ,like i was the bad owner .There dogs would act like untrained crazies dragging them to play (well often that was the word they used when fairly obvious they had no manners & the owners not concept of control or respect ). It sad we live in a world where people are so quick to judge people who use different methods when out in public with often not knowing the full story & just getting the basics Here is a person whose dog is on lead & under control & she made out to be unfair ,then the next breathe we read posts about offleash dogs & there owners & there idiots because they don't have effective control . I now dogs feed a similar diet who have medical issues & its part of a process in working out a diet regime infact a dog we breed is currently being feed similar & yes the vet is happy with the diet so far for what they are achieving. Diet is personal & breed specific & i can tell you from someone who works with dogs 24/7 365 days of the year i see a wide selection of diet options & i think many people who be amazed at which dogs are often healthier & the diets there feed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 So basically because someone does something you, you "feel sorry for the dog" why are people so judgemental? Its like raising kids, everyone has an opinion. I see dogs every day in far worse situations and as far as I'm concerned if the dog is getting sheltered, exercised, fed and loved, it's all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) Gremlins. Edited March 13, 2014 by Aussie3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dory the Doted One Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Diet aside, what if a person was loving their dog into a neurotic mess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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