BC Crazy

I would be wrapped if there was somewhere in our area, just for peace of mind really :)

One of OH's workmates has a Dingo & has had him for years. He is an Aboriginal guy & I am unsure where he got him from. They have 4 small children & "Ernie" LOL, is a terrific family pet. Only one thing with Ernie, you can't leave him just in a normal crate/dog enclosure. He rips everything to shreds. He just likes to roam the backyard but has never ran away :)

They're still there too :'( I walk past them every single day through to work on Lonsdale St. :'( Every morning I walk past when the shop is closed and all I can hear are puppy cries and screams. :'( OMG, that is just so tragic & very sad. Those poor puppies. Both big, strong breeds that need a very dedicated owner I would imagine. Doubt that it going to happen given the unfortunate start these poor pups have been dealt

I can't answer for "most people" IMHO they don't cause undue discomfort. No more than a flat collar, a check collar or prong collar used correctly. I can only speak for myself & the positive results I have had along with daily positive reward lead training. Had to edit to add I have witnessed a pup slip its flat collar & get killed by an oncoming car. That is why I did a fair amount of research on this issue. I wanted something 99% safe. Also we are suppose to be offering the op advise on our positive experiences coupled with what has worked for us, to maybe give the op a helping hand, exactly what I have tried to do :)

Because dogs can slip a flat collar :) I'm pleased a martingale collar works for your dog as they work for both of mine too.

Yes exactly Rubyblue. I don't like normal Halti's either as they do pull the dogs head around & down. Also the noseband rides up near their eyes almost. I only use the nose band on my younger girl now on occassion, usually just the martingale. I reckon they work really well & are very safe :) I believe they train police GHD's with them also, thats what made me think they may help the OP :)

Poor little fella. So am of no help to you accept to send him some healing thoughts from us. Hope you can get to the cause of his problems very soon & he is back to his normal happy self.

IMHO huski, no more discomfort than a ordinary flat collar if a dog pulls. It is unsafe to walk a dog in something they can slip. Thats was my main concern & it seems the op. is having trouble as hers slipped the harness. Hence my suggestion to try an Infin8 :)

Oh he's lovely koalathebear. What a handsome little man

Hi BC Crazy, there are quite a few of these in the US but I haven't heard of any here except Kepala in Melbourne. Hi OdinGenie, It's just a great idea. Pitty there wasn't more around. Bit far to go to the states LOL They are very dog savvy over there.

My idea of heaven juice. Me too, I would happily pay to stroll around with my dogs blissfully for an hour or all day LOL.

Tazor, blood boiling x 2 + extremely sickened & sad When is the sale of poor little innocent puppies stuffed into artificle glass cabinets to be brought on a whim, like you were buying something insignificent ever going to end when the buck stops. Good on for Tazor for at least having your say. I can't even go there as it just upsets me too much.

Yes Kavik they are quite different to other head collars & I'm so glad I had instructions the first time I was fitting mine otherwise very confusing, yes :laugh: Once you understand how they work, they are really easy to put on. Other head collars tend to pull the dogs head around & apply pressure under the jaw, pulling the dogs nose down & sideways, which I didn't like. The dog seems to be walking with it's head pulled to one side. With the Infin8, the pressure is coming from the martingale & on top of the nose, keeping the dogs head nice & straight. I seemed to have plenty of control over their head as well. Different strokes for different folks I guess :)

How do they work if it's not at all uncomfortable for the dog? I used the Black Dog one on Justice a few years ago and he hated it and found it very aversive. I do like them better than other brands I've seen but it's definitely uncomfortable to wear. It might just be tolerated better by some dogs than others. When you first put the Infin8 on you have to do it gradually usually. I used it on both Sonny & Stella. Sonny didn't care less but Stella hated it at first, threw herself on the ground & had a tanti for 5 minutes when I put the nose band on, so I left it on for only a few minutes at first & didn't grab hold of the lead & gradually she didn't worry about it either. If they walk on a loose lead it is just as if they have a martingale collar on & the nose band only becomes active if they pull. Another reason I love them is they can't slip them, like they can most other ones. It boils down to whatever works for the dog though :)

How do they work if it's not at all uncomfortable for the dog? It works in the same way a halter works on a horse. If the dog pulls, slight pressure is applied across the dogs nose,as soon as it doesn't pull the pressure ceases & goes slack. All it is is an extension off a martingale collar, the nose section comes off the martingale collar in a figure 8 over which is slipped over your dogs nose. When they are walking nicely on lead consistently I just cut the nose band off. Now both of mine are just on martingales. I didn't use the Infin 8 as a bandaid, I used it as a training aid & when introduced & fitted correctly I highly recommend them :)

Sonny has a big coat, lots of it Delta Charlie & he is a bit of a softy so I do go easy on him. His coat is lovely considering he is neutured. My girl also has a lovely coat too but she is not a sook. I can go for my life with the Mars & she's like, 'watever, just hurry up !!' :laugh:

Mashed pumpkin worked a treat for my boy who is a very good doer & needs very little food to keep him at his correct weight.

I walk both my of mine, although they aren't GSD's on half slip collars or Black Dog Infin 8 halters. The Infin 8's I swear by. They are different to a normal halti & I find miles more effective without ANY discomfort to your dog. If you have a moment check them out on the Black Dog web site. The other good thing is they only work if the dog pulls, if he is behaving it is just like he is being walked on a collar & leash. Mine very rarely pull now even when walked together daily.

What a great idea! I would be wrapped if there were something like this in our area. You could exercise your dogs in complete safety. Like a leash free but all to yourself. I hadn't heard of this before. I would hire it even for an hour a week purely for the peace of mind.

My male BC has a BIG tail too. Very thick & long. I have to trim the end with scissors as it as it touches the ground & it hurts him if he stands on it. I use my Mars coat king his tail, very carefully, to thin it out. I make sure he has just been washed ,conditioned & completely dry. I Les pooche his tail first, then use the MCK. I hold the bone of his tail in one hand & lay his tail out & rake him fairly softly, the full length of his tail. If you try to rake quickly on a dirty coat it will grab & you'll take a chunk out. Hope this makes sense & I was of some help :)

Awwww !! Not those gorgeous baby Sammies again. Way too adoreable . I so want a big cuddle :)

I would use both in a high risk tick area remembering that the collar is not water fast & once wet becomes ineffective. Where as Advantix is water fast but the dog mustn't be washed for 48 hours after application & must be applied every 2 weeks. Daily checking is a must, ears, chest, between toes & behind stoppers. Some of the ticks fav spots. From head to toe check with your fingertips going against the hair growth, including mouth & butt :)

I am of no help to you except to say I am so sorry to hear of your awful experience you have had with a boarding kennel. That would be my worst nightmare You leave your precious dogs in the care of people who are 'supposedly responsible', professional people, thinking they are safe & you are doing the right thing I hope your poor pooches make a speedy recovery & suffer no side effects from their ordeal.

Yes I also would be inclined to think an unlined trailer would be like a sweat box on wheels. No insulation IMHO would be hot as inside. I know we have a storage box on the front of our caravan that is made out of checker plate & you can't even old on to the handle of it for more than a second in the summer time, it is just boiling :)

Me too!!, major puppy withdrawel :laugh: Love puppy bitey face.