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edit rambling To get back to the original topic, yes I understand a plea for help needs to be made sometimes. But I'm guessing continuously getting in over your head and asking for a bail out over and over and over again is the irritant? Like every dog needing a carer or kennel sponsor?

This has been like watching a trainwreck in slow motion.

Very well said Andrea. :)

Can people please clarify? Dogs who cost more are less worthy of rescue?

Beats me guys, they are absolutely free to go do whatever they want. Each member does their PL volly work on top of their own rescue/family/personal commitments. And personally with this bullying and footstamping going on, I'm beginning to wonder if fighting to keep it going is worth it for any of us. btw for the rescuers who have been assisted by PL members as recently as yesterday (and in many cases they don't know it because members prefer to work quietly) thanks ever so much for the less than flattering hysterical facebook posts. ;)

Actually I think the breeder sounds really reasonable. :) They offered you the chance to do something productive for the breed and positive for you and your family. All with the guidance of someone who seems to care what happens to their dogs. Perhaps you feel the options don't suit your situation. In that case buy a nice quality limited register desexed pet and enjoy. :)

Muttrus, that's the million dollar question. Everyone rescues differently, and it's a given that groups and individuals clash. So putting ethical debates aside: my only other reason for jumping up and down is to keep Pound List a trusted, transparent and independent source, as a team of people from many different groups all working together. Pound Rounds can go in and do their own work. It's that simple. Nobody is stopping them. And I think our stance is justified further by the fact that PL people have been called and bullied, sent vile emails, watermark/copyright has been ignored (btw I'd rather that we didn't have to bother with the extra editing but again it's proved necessary), we've been blamed for the death of pound dogs and personally maligned for our individual rescue efforts. Since PL established in 2008 we've had no drama even close to this: does that tell you anything? However, I really need to thank every single rescuer who has respected what we try to do. xxxAnna *efs

Well it's been just two weeks and already Pound Rounds are stealing the DOL Pound List work again. :rolleyes:

Is it this one by any chance? norty It's a shocker eh.

Facebook is a great way to promote things like non-profits and their events but obviously there is no 'moderator' as such. So people do get away with posting things they would get booted from a forum over. In some cases that might be the appeal. The newest rescue vs rescue page to spring up is quite the spectacle and if it wasn't so sad I'd post a link.

Welcome Treacy, yes we came to the conclusion that their rescuer was 100% serious about finding the girls a good home close to where they are already located. My only concern when all is said and done is desex status. Do you know if she will organise that too as a condition of rehoming? xxanna

Maybe a "Rescue Widower" or "waking up one morning and realising there's no more room in the bed" award? :laugh:

OT sorry: We had four pyometra cases in a row of rescued female seniors. I completely understand the wait-and-see preference from your vet but there are pros and cons. Leg cocking though, lol just seems to be a bossy girl thing. I usually tell people that no matter what age you adopt, pretend you have a pup when it comes to housebreaking. They do pick it up if you're consistent.

So do I Mr Katdogs is pretty amazing too, even if he is a sook. A big sook tell him to walk it off, he'll be fine. hehe. Only joking. Mr Katdogs is very cool and truly deserves a mention among his fellow long suffering supportive spouses.

I Mr Powerlegs

Silly question but how would they know every 'unreputable' unless someone with the poops emails to complain? In which case, everyone will be gradually be removed until all that's left is crickets chirping....

All under control Boronia, I'm not holding my breath but with 2 dogs going in for major surgery soon I won't be taking anyone direct from the pound (to be on the safe side) - so there's still a spot for them if needed. Ams will follow up.

:D ta Ams! You have a missed call on your mobe. I didn't leave a message. xxx

I can help if it looks like local ethical options are exhausted, I just need someone up there to assist xxxx

Oh dear. I wish they weren't so far away. Maybe PM Varicool? Just in case she has a spot. We've had a lesson this week about what happens to beautiful undesexed female yorkie types who end up in the wrong hands. Those girls need to be desexed before going anywhere.

I've started the Blackmores PAW range of osteosupport on an oldie with stiff hind legs and saw a difference. Now planning to start my own three legged boy on the same - he's fine but like you I worry about the increased wear and tear on his other joints.

I'm afraid I prefer mature dog adopters meeting their dog in person. But everyone does things differently and quite successfully. Not saying that this adult couldn't be perfect for you, just take care to iron out the crinkles like, trial periods, how to do a proper intro with your dog and who pays for boarding (if needed) and return freight if it doesn't work out. The finer points of returning a dog can be a real headache if the question isn't asked beforehand. It's probably a good question to ask the puppy breeders as well: a 'just in case' scenario. Good luck. &Brownie points for asking for feedback.

hehe after doing a search on two (correctly spelled) phrases, they both show up on other people's websites. The rather exotic breed list is a cut and paste from here: link "Adidi , Akbash, Anatolian Shepherd, Castro Laboreiro, Cuacasian Ovtcharka, Estrela Mountain, Great Pyrenees, Kangal, Komondor, Kuvasz, Maremma Sheepdog, Middle Asian Ovtcharka, Perrp de Pastor Mallorquin, Polish Tatra Sheepdog, Pyrenean Mastiff, Sarplaninac, South Russian Ovtcharka, Tibetan Kyi-Apso, Tibetan Mastiff, Tornjak" The touch insensitivity stuff takes you directly to this page link "One of the traits that was selectively bred for in the pit bull in order to make this dog breed into a more efficient fighter is what is known as touch insensitivity. This trait of touch insensitivity is common to dogs bred for fighting so that despite being severely wounded they would continue fighting. A dog high in this trait would be pretty much impervious to a might yank on its chain which goes a long way in explaining why it is so difficult to call off and disengage a pit bull engaged in an attack" And then I stopped looking. My brain hurts.

Where do u buy that? A few niche suppliers like this one. There is industrial grade not suitable for humans or pets so you just need to make sure it's the right one.

I'm so sorry. Ticks are horrid little things. One of my fears. All the chemicals we buy and they aren't even killing fleas anymore. Food grade diatomaceous earth won't hurt either way. It sticks to and kills invertebrates like ticks and fleas, using the right grade is apparently harmless to us and pets. That will probably be my backup this flea and tick season.