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Definitely doesn't sound right. :-( Could they have missed a tooth abscess? Far enough back and right up in the root you can get goopy eye, swelling etc. I swear there's some kind of protocol for xrays that mean you might not be able to stay with him? There's a few vets on Dol so they will know. But in any case, just a light sedation would keep him still for a few minutes and be quite safe.

I'm always anon. And an occasional 3am insomnia random thread reader which I find a bit embarrassing. Then there's the walking off mid-read and having your name sitting at the bottom of the thread for aaaages like you're studying it for exams.

Wizard I was asking stuff not long ago. The worry is that you can find a dog, take the dog to a vet for scanning and that vet is apparently under no obligation to seize the dog. (I thought they were but apparently that's not the case) Clinics can apply to be an 'approved premises' under the Act so they can legally seize and hold strays until the ranger comes but many aren't. So pets are being sent home with people who find them and believe that taking them to the pound means they will certainly die. I'm so sorry about Sarge. Hope he comes home soon. edit: spelling

I have an obvious favourite or two :p first one to guess wins a goldfish , and the rest are all pretty much equally lovely even if I would never own one. Definitely not adding a least favourite breed. Firstly, haven't met them all and secondly it's more likely to be actual individuals I don't gel with rather than a whole breed!

Have you ever actually met a diagnosed hoarder? Or seen how the animals are kept? That term makes me prickle and often pops up in anti-private-rescue propaganda. Hoarding is an illness. And you have to be qualified to diagnose it, not just an armchair critic. A true collector isn't just keeping a couple of fosters and I think many carers would be mortified to think foster failure could even be considered a red flag for mental illness. Yes, I absolutely agree that rescues do need to keep an eyes on all policies and procedures. And yep I'm all too aware of how people react when you suggest they are letting the side down. People do not need to meet a diagnosed anything to understand the issues. However, yes I have witnessed this first hand, not that it matters. I object to anyone saying all rescue is good and that they cannot do better. That level of arrogance is mind boggling. Foster carers need support which includes an understanding of why they are fostering because some foster to meet their own needs not the dogs. Anyway seems to me some rescue is a closed shop with people protecting their own interests by personally attacking others to make their point. Which is very poor form and gives the impression there is something to hide. But it does matter. I guess unless you're trying to prove a point. Then diagnosis and pathology just get in the way. And find me ethical rescuers who believe they cannot improve on what they are doing. Please. Obviously there is a story behind your posts. Dog_fan, time for some of that 'truth' you mentioned. What exactly happened to you? Not that you have to share, but you definitely have a lot of very strong opinions for someone anonymous who doesn't participate in the rescue section except in threads like this one so you can have a little dig at rescue.

Have you ever actually met a diagnosed hoarder? Or seen how the animals are kept? That term makes me prickle and often pops up in anti-private-rescue propaganda. Hoarding is an illness. And you have to be qualified to diagnose it, not just an armchair critic. A true collector isn't just keeping a couple of fosters and I think many carers would be mortified to think foster failure could even be considered a red flag for mental illness. Yes, I absolutely agree that rescues do need to keep an eyes on all policies and procedures. And yep I'm all too aware of how people react when you suggest they are letting the side down.

Sigh, please go back and read post #33, slowly, carefully, and take it all in ... then please, do tell me where I was at all attacking, harsh, rude, derogatory or, much less, saying breeders are contemptable and pedigree dogs are bad? Then read subsequent posts in reply and tell me who's been condescending, rude and elitist. The guy that flew off the handle against Reg'd Breeders/Pedigrees ... his post got me thinking about something that had never occurred to me before now, because this is the first time in my life I've not shelled out $1k's for a pedigree dog group as such, and it's been a fantastic, emotionally & financially rewarding experience. In no way did I dump on anyone, status of dogs or the people who bred them; I simply made an observation that the only issues I've ever had, and the many, many $1k's lost has been as a result of pedigree dogs - it's not rocket science, it's just plain simple fact - I'm not knocking the dogs or the breeders, just stating the truth. The pedigree dogs with issues (2 Rotties & Akita etc) were amongst the first few bred and sold in the country. double sigh I'm out before I get a warning.

Look, when I write in plain, simple English expressing my personal experiences and opinion, only to be attacked for same, wrongly accused of holding breeders in contempt and not liking pedigree dogs (oh sure, I can't stand them, that's why I've had so many so many successes over the years I suppose), it is inferred I must've caused HD in my 2 top Rotties and someone sees fit to take the piss because I referred to the breed of a dog correctly, then you can bet your sweet patootie I'm going to get somewhat peeved and start to treat peeps exactly in the demeaning manner they've treated me. Oh and their elitist attitude of "you've got a BYB mongrel, so why are you here???". I HAVE PUREBRED DOGS, I JUST DIDN'T PAY ANY OF YOU <>$1.5k ea FOR THEM AND THEY DON'T HAVE PAPERS BUT THEIR PUREso therefore I'm some sort of philistine renegade who's supporting "real breeders" competitors whom they'd like to see stamped out, banished, done away with, outlawed, hung, drawn & quartered for their plethora of sins. Find a show program from 25 years ago when I was showing mine & see what Akita Inu's were referred to way back then. Akita Inu is the correct name. I don't give a fat rat's crack what the Aussies of today call them, I refer to them correctly and don't take kindly to being ridiculed for doing so, especially by pedigree breeders. So, let's start calling Blue Heelers just Blues shall we, any type of Mastiff prefix can be dropped so it's just Mastiff from now on, and whilst we're at it all Retrievers can be just that, no more differentiation between them requ'd. It's the Aussie way afterall Petal, you're doing your fair share of 'attacking'. This is just a little discussion forum not an unmoderated facebook page where anything goes. You set the tone and unsurprisingly got the responses you set yourself up for. And yes, you are absolutely entitled to an opinion, that's your right but personally I don't think that needs to be at the expense of others with your harsh & derogatory language.

In Australia, they are just called Akita. No Inu. You have to be one of the most rude and condescending posters I have seen in a long time. Maybe it's just your style, but it's rude.

I can't believe you made her disturb the critters and get out of bed! How mean! hehe It's a very cute piccy and ten points for trying.

One of the broadest, most incorrect generalisations I've ever read ... I've got 3 sat here playing with me right now that are in perfect health and soundness, three for less than the price of one, three times the love and joy! I've had champion bred show stock all my life, they all scooped the pools in their puppy classes but, alas, all too soon the fully health tested, immaculately bred from supreme bloodlines, high falootin', who's up who & who's not paying the rent famous pups found their way to vet surgeries to finally be PTS despite all best efforts - 2 for hips (different breeders) and an Akita Inu for a congenital nerve condition that saw him having bouts of being completely paralysed. Oh and lets not forget his plethora of allergies and temperament issues (one of the breeder's Imp stud dogs tried to kill him) - $4k to buy him and probably just as much again, if not more, spent in trying to save him. Was the breeder interested in compensation, another pup, contribution towards vet bills? Not on your bloody life they weren't!!! They're the 3 cases that immediately spring to mind. All I'm saying is, buying any dog is the luck of the draw (having a good eye, commonsense, some knowledge and intuition goes a long, long way) and there's lots of factors that come in to it, not the least of which is nature and environment. I appreciate and understand that this is a pedigree dog forum and breeders are all dedicated to trying to do the right thing. However, there are none so blind as those who won't see, and narrow-mindedness, self-righteousness and relying on health tests as though they're some sort of gospel is just pure, unadulterated BS that all amounts to nothing when the shit hits the fan. ALL any buyer can hope for is the best of luck, be it their beloved pet comes from a reg'd breeder, a BYB or the gutter - my personal experience is that I've never had an ounce of trouble from my rescues or BYB, whereas ALL my issues, heartache, pain and expense have been incurred by pedigreed show dogs. That is all. If you dislike pedigree dogs and their breeders that much, I wonder at you being on a pedigree dog forum. LMFAO, what a puerile, ridiculous statement to make. What part of my posts were you unable to comprehend that caused you to arrive at that conclusion petal? How about .... none so blind as those who won't see, and narrow-mindedness, self-righteousness and relying on health tests as though they're some sort of gospel is just pure, unadulterated BS that all amounts to nothing when the shit hits the fan you're in a purebred dog forum. It's the rescue section so you won't get any arguments about how great our muttleys are but spitting on pedigree will get you nowhere. And belittling a highly esteemed rescuer who has seen the very worst of BYB is just exactly what you call: narrow minded. Fact is, BYB/accidental/puppyfarm/&just-one-litter or even "pure without papers" outnumber pedigree in the pounds, and in rescue and on the PTS lists. And as an added bonus BYB can get just as horrendously ill, I have the bills to prove it. Sorry but they are all dogs, they all have the potential to be unhealthy. Don't heap rubbish on people that are at least trying to avoid problems by running these apparently useless health tests or watching their breeding program for issues. Thank you dogmad and ditto...

That's great news about the big orgs getting in there to push for change! :crossfingers:

Hell no. That excludes half the people in rescue. IMHO "Success moving dogs on" is not the duty of a carer, more-so the rescue who is doing the promoting and vetting of applications. If someone is not what you'd approve to adopt a dog then don't give them fosters. Easy. eta: yes Ams I see the your point about temptation. :laugh:

(My highlights) Not true. Having an entire dog can go back to reasons of training, development and health. What is the "plethora" of health benefits to a dog for it being desexed? It won't get cancer of the organs removed, but what else? In one year we had 4 pyometra cases in a row. And another 2 borderline. A testicular cancer dog, and a double perineal hernia boy from an enlarged prostate. And I've lost count of the mammary tumours. Obviously they were all from pounds, so the 'responsible owner' bit doesn't count. But some part of their physical suffering could have been avoided had they just been desexed years before. As you'd know, my range of experience is limited to rescue and every single one should be desexed, that's the way it is. But one sweeping law to cover every single dog regardless? I can't see it happening. Microchipping is hard enough to enforce. Dogs are running around unchipped, unregistered and unvaccinated. eg: one small council rural council decided to promote responsible dog ownership after a nasty parvo outbreak with heavily discounted vaccinations. There is also access to subsidised desexing and cheap chipping. But the response to the cheap vaccinations was so stunningly bad. I mean if you can't even motivate people into stopping their puppies dying horribly then wtf.

yeahhhh along with the keyboard "rescue" crusaders that spam people oooh you must mean the ones who call me a dog killer for not supporting their cause.

Yes to more desexing. No to more laws that aren't enforced. While people can still source breeding stock courtesy of council impounds, FTGH and pet shops there's a whole lot of steps between where we are now and bringing in a compulsory desex law. Then there's the stray cats. No owner, nobody to take responsibility. They end up squished, feral or impounded, their babies distributed or released undesexed to keep the cycle going.

EARS! Love them T. They look like mischief already.

I don't know what the deal is either Bartok but have seen it said a bit like this: if you're giving your dog the traditional two weeks settling in/assessing and quarantine (mostly that's as near to keeping them from spreading germs around as manageable without an iso setup), then you're risking the lives of Urgent List dogs and contributing to high kill stats: and besides, people adopt from pounds all the time and take the dog straight to the park so why are you complaining. etc etc There's no way to dispute that except by sticking to what you know is right. A few months ago at a pet supply store, a new owner of a poundie arrived. The dog had been out maybe a week (?), they desexed but didn't opt to vaccinate (or quarantine obviously). I'm not sure why vets aren't explaining things like this either.

Hi Horrie! We seem to have a great response from stories, albums and videos that follow their progress from the pound and show off how easily an oldie can fit in. I think sometimes people imagine the seniors may have challenging health issues or are too set in their ways to adapt. But lots of photos and videos and updates really shows how great they are. This might mean setting up more photo space on the Dally Club site, building your own or ....taking advantage of facebook. I think with breed specific you'd do well there amongst dalmatian owners. :) Juice, your foster boy is a bit greyer, a bit slower but still going strong and loving life.

Yep, I'd expect a pee too. It's not been a normal month for everyone. Even the best most housetrained dogs can have an accident when stressed. I wouldn't say everything was ruined and that his training is out the window quite yet. You'll get a lot better toilet training advice from others here so my only input would be to stay calm and give them both more time. :)

Can you push it back in like a hernia? Still looks like one just not in the traditional spot. Maybe it's just a plain old cyst.

That is very sad. Pledging donations is so generous. xx

New charity and NFP commission on the way. ACNC Scallywags I believe there are snapshots gathered but posting them online would be a privacy issue? Or at least an issue for Troy. Not sure. But I'd say people will be careful about putting anyone's private experiences out there without permission.

how are they scamming? the money is used in some way to save dogs, regardless if we agree with their approach to it. Ask the rescues who have taken dogs on at the last minute after they've done the rounds of FB in the PR album -- gaining funds and support, then left on the PTS list. Don't be surprised that people call it a scam.

I happened to have the number the vet gave me to contact re microchips. I had planned to give the number to that. It's a petsearch number. The rescues I spoke to had also planned to double check the microchip details had they got the dog. Just reading back.........you mean rescues actually agreed in advance to handle found dogs if they came up?! Sorry TS I do think you're halfway to a good idea with a few amendments to take in the legal aspects but I'm off. This thread is too scary.