dee lee Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I'm not keen on the general spitz temperament descriptions, I admit I like being adored! Oh, they'll adore you, but that doesn't mean they'll do what you want them to or care if you're not happy with them. Lol, sounds like most dogs I've owned! My keeshond was definitely like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAX Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I think I'm almost at the point where choice of breeder would probably be as influential on selecting a breed as the dogs themselves. The right breeder makes such a difference. If I was tossing up between a few breeds, my guess is that the right breeder would be a deciding factor. Completely agree (especially with my fav breed - ACD's), whilst training can alter many behaviours, why start off with an undesirable personality. The breeder of my new puppy has selected for temperment for generations ACD's as friendly to strangers as Labs I totally get the need for well adjusted dogs, but it makes me feel a bit sad that a breed of dog is being bred to lose it's natural instinct for the general public. If you can't manage a dog that is true to its breed standard, you shouldn't own it. Pick another breed, don't put this on the breeders. Is the undesirable behavior the true breed personality, I would expect an ACD to guard my property. With good training an ACD should not feel the need to guard in the owners presence. I would hate for an ACD to behave like a Lab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Q Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) I like BC's energy, I love how Quinn has to be involved in everything I do. She likes to be busy and with me. I like that she is more in tune with me than anyone else. She's attached to me and will always be in the same room as me but doesn't always have to be on my lap. Mum asked me recently why I chose a BC over another working type like a GSP or a Vizsla. I thought about it and I like BC's seriousness, I like that she does everything efficiently and effectively just to get it done and move on. She's so responsive to me but not really interested in anyone else. She also has her dopey side, she's so blank sometimes it cracks me up. I was sure a BC was a good match before I got her, now I'm positive. I can't wait to have more. Edited January 13, 2011 by busterlove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolz Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 i love Rotti's cos they are (if raised correctly) big goof balls.. they are over sized teddybears. and i like ACD's cos they look nice but also cos they are so friendly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corvus Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 No, I would never have a BC. Or a GSD. Or anything that is super people focused. I've been working with some shelter SBTs in the last couple of weeks and they drive me nuts. So much as raise an eyebrow in their direction and they rush over to see if that meant you'll pat them. The Greyhound is my favourite so far. He's a steady thinker and he seems quite happy to work on his own with us watching. Don't want one, but I like him. Most of the dogs there are super people focused. It does make it easy to tell them to go away just by looking away, though. But, you know, I rarely want to tell my dogs to go away. They don't obsess about every human in the room. I appreciate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmolo Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I like drivey dogs with edge- thats why we have 2 bull arab type, 2 ACD x's and a JRT I too would hate to see certain breed traits 'bred out'. I love the hardness of an ACD compared to others and certainly wouldn't want one to be as friendly as a lab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koalathebear Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) I hadnt heard this before but have certainly experienced it. We got a girl at 5 months who had basically no handling, lived in a pen, never been on lead etc and she turned out to be the most solid, people friendly, bomb proof dog. She is highly social and fine in every situation.The boy had no exposure to life apart from sheepdog training/trialling and is the same. 100% perfect with people and walks happily through the city with all sorts of noise. I think the lack of socialising could really mess up some other breeds. I hadn't heard it before either but it was something I learned during the search for our second puppy. There are a lot of nervy Kelpies out there but I suspect that their parentage might not be ascertainable. As mentioned, it's supposed to be the well-bred Kelpies that are pretty rock-solid. 4kelpies was the person who mentioned before about how she met the litter brothers and sisters of some of her puppies who had never been away from the farm but still had good temperaments that were similar to her well-socialised pups. Well-bred Kelpies are supposed to be very adaptable and take new things into their stride and you're right, in a lot of breeds, that lack of early socialisation would probably be a complete disaster. Another reason I love Kelpies is that people who love Kelpies have such a deep and unwavering affection for them and will frequently remember them with very strong emotion. I was chatting to Hoover's breeder the other day and it was so sweet to hear her talking about Hoover's litter-mates and you could just feel how much she loved the dogs and the breed. 4kelpies: Thanks for the kind words! Much of what I've learned about Kelpies I learned from you We also spend a lot of time with our two monsters observing all their funny foibles. Edited January 13, 2011 by koalathebear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I don't know how I'd deal with one of those super-people obsessed dogs. I have a personal space bubble, and even though I enjoy having cuddles with my dogs I don't want them all over me all the time. Sometimes I think it would be nice, and then other times I appreciate having a dog who doesn't fall all over itself to get attention from people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancinbcs Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I'm not keen on the general spitz temperament descriptions, I admit I like being adored! Oh, they'll adore you, but that doesn't mean they'll do what you want them to or care if you're not happy with them. Lol, sounds like most dogs I've owned! My keeshond was definitely like that. You obviously haven't owned a Border Collie. They live just to please their owners, do exactly as they are told and are devestated if they think they have let you down. The most important temperament trait for a Border Collie is their "will to please" their owner. I will not breed from anything that shows any tendency to being stubborn or strong willed because it loses the essence of the breed. They frequently out-think novice owners and it ends up with the dog training the owner instead of the other way around, but if you are smarter than the dog and know how to train them they are the easiest breed to live with. I couldn't handle living with dogs that didn't just do whatever I tell them to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyValley Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 One day, one day for me... when I am retired from dog sports or I have enough room and income to allow for an extra dog around the place that has no other purpose but to be my footwarmer and lap warmer, too I love Labs so much, keep umming and ahhing over getting a boy next (must be yellow, they are just to me), but I also want to try my hand at an Aussie Shepherd But must say, ES keep tugging at my heart strings!! I think I'm almost at the point where choice of breeder would probably be as influential on selecting a breed as the dogs themselves. The right breeder makes such a difference. If I was tossing up between a few breeds, my guess is that the right breeder would be a deciding factor. Thats why it will probably be about a decade before I get an ES... unless I steal ST's boy James :p Just because I feel sorry for the way ES are being descibed I just want to add they are intelligent dogs... they are just "independant thinkers" They are very easygoing and fit into family life well, they are known for having stable unflappable tempraments and I like brushing and grooming hairy dogs and can look past a bit of drool :D Plus I am the kind of fool who likes a challange and would love to see how much I could do with an ES and if I fail... I have an awesome companion that is the easiest dog to live with. rallyvalley, :D I love gundogs too , but not just dual ones , triple ones, HPRs, hunting pointing retrieving :D :D both mine are HPRs.(as are GSPs) Go the Triple Threats :thumbsup: Should that be treats or threats?? sometimes both are applicable. Good call! When I get the next puppy in a few years I am eyeing off a HPR breed as well.. but a hairy one ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FionaC Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 rallyvalley, I love gundogs too , but not just dual ones , triple ones, HPRs, hunting pointing retrieving both mine are HPRs.(as are GSPs) Go the Triple Threats :D :thumbsup: Should that be treats or threats?? sometimes both are applicable. I'd like to say "treats" but threats is far more honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoofnHoof Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I must have a split personality then I love my chi and I love my sibe I couldn't imagine life without either of these breeds even though they are a PITA to manage together (at least in my experience). I suppose I'm a bit shallow I tend to like dogs that I think are cute or pretty and just incorporate their breed traits into my life My must own one day list includes a dally and a white shepherd. I never really thought about matching a breed with my lifestyle although when I got my sibe I had the vague thought that because he's a bigger dog he would be able to come with me when I go out riding the horse which of course is completely impossible but at the time I didn't know much about sibes :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) The big & the small. I like animated dogs & have found over the years any breed is capable of being spirited & fun. Edited January 13, 2011 by showdog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkyTansy Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 showdog that is too cute - took me a minute to figure it out but now i see it it's cute!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee lee Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I'm not keen on the general spitz temperament descriptions, I admit I like being adored! Oh, they'll adore you, but that doesn't mean they'll do what you want them to or care if you're not happy with them. Lol, sounds like most dogs I've owned! :D My keeshond was definitely like that. You obviously haven't owned a Border Collie. They live just to please their owners, do exactly as they are told and are devestated if they think they have let you down. Nope, never had a BC. I do love them, but I know my limitations and dont want a dog that may be smarter than me! My (definitely not smarter than me ) GR is very willing to please me but certainly doesn't live for it. She is also a big of a tart & would go to anyone for pats. But I love the peaceful co-existence we have. She is ultra low maintainence which suits me combined with an extremely loving nature. If only she didn't have so much freaking fur she'd be perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redangel Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 My favorite dogs Ive owned in the past have been a border collie, kelpie & a dobermann. My family always had an always inside dog...a poodle. I would dearly love to have a bigger working breed, but unfortunately through divorce I am in the rental market, and finding a placement that allows big dogs is hard. Thus I chose a poodle. Benefit also is that they are equally as smart, dont shed or have 'wet dog' smell'. The only drawback is that I am not fond of being judged as a prissy dog owner...my poodles are as much dog as other dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkySoaringMagpie Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I couldn't handle living with dogs that didn't just do whatever I tell them to. Love this thread, I'd be bored if my dog didn't raise the middle claw from time to time. It's nifty there are so many different breeds with so many different attributes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boronia Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I couldn't handle living with dogs that didn't just do whatever I tell them to. Love this thread, I'd be bored if my dog didn't raise the middle claw from time to time. It's nifty there are so many different breeds with so many different attributes. Yep, SkySoaringMagpie, mine don't raise their middle claw, they just stick their tails up even higher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjelkier Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I couldn't handle living with dogs that didn't just do whatever I tell them to. Love this thread, I'd be bored if my dog didn't raise the middle claw from time to time. It's nifty there are so many different breeds with so many different attributes. Yep, SkySoaringMagpie, mine don't raise their middle claw, they just stick their tails up even higher Mine just laugh at me and run off.... :D A agree, a great thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyValley Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 The big & the small.I like animated dogs & have found over the years any breed is capable of being spirited & fun. Those pictures are too cute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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