TheCheekyMonster Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 There is a man who walks his red kelpie and Siberian husky twice a day around our street... he has had these two dogs since pups, they always look so pleasant just enjoy their walk and i've never seen them interact with anything that passes they are absolutely stunning!!, they are about 2 years old now and I have ALWAYS wanted to become acquainted with them but never had the chance to ask for a pat... well yesterday I had the chance, I was about 6 meters away, and i yelled out can I have a pat... he stops as he sees me walk towards him takes our his headphones and asks me to repeat myself... (im 5 meters at this point) so I do, he laughs and says no you cant they arnt friendly.... I was shocked, and thought he was joking.. so i laughed back and said ow really, his like yea they will bite you... and all of a sudden the kelpie lashes out and starts snarling at me snapping and basically going nuts, I have never been so shocked I backed away back into my car and said puzzled haven't you had them since they were pups and his like yea but they are a bit funny.... WTF!!!!!! how does that work? if you saw these dogs you would think they are the most loved and cared for dogs, yet to see it react like that from a person 5 meters away was just mind boggling.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naomi Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I had a similar thing with Archie the other day. Our street is a new sub division. There was a lady who protested the idea of the sub division and now she walks her large dog and tiny dog up the street everyday. I was going past with Archie once and the larger dog lunged at Archie and pulled the lady over into the grassy ditch. I am so glad she didn't let go. The dog was way too large for her to handle. Pretty scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raineth Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 hmmm, that is interesting. I know what you mean, he seems very responsible, and the dogs well-behaved, so you would expect that they've been well socialised, and therefore to be human-friendly. I wonder if he neglected their socialisation in that area? The neighbours across the road never socialised their Beagle, and now he gets out, he is so terrified of other people that you can't get within about twenty metres of him before he freaks out, I hope he doesn't get run over one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCheekyMonster Posted July 15, 2012 Author Share Posted July 15, 2012 hmmm, that is interesting. I know what you mean, he seems very responsible, and the dogs well-behaved, so you would expect that they've been well socialised, and therefore to be human-friendly. I wonder if he neglected their socialisation in that area? The neighbours across the road never socialised their Beagle, and now he gets out, he is so terrified of other people that you can't get within about twenty metres of him before he freaks out, I hope he doesn't get run over one day. it wasn't a bark out of not knowing what a human is though, it was like pure aggression, like it hated humans... but i have seen his gradchildren walk them.. and they are both in such cute pink collars and it was just like double take..... i do have a feeling they may not have been socialised with anyone but family members, but its just odd because they are having a walk in our very people orientated street twice a day...our streets always packed and i've never seen her react but maybe no one has asked to pat them before, because it was like as soon as he got nervous she lashed out.... (only one lashed out... the other was just very wary)... its sad such beautiful dogs and i dont know what happened to them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirislin Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 wow! lucky you asked first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greytmate Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Some dogs have a genetic tendency towards acting aggressive in situations they find challenging. A dog like this can develop aggressive habits, even with an owner who is caring and who socialises their dog. An owner isn't around their dog 24 hours a day, and even if they are, some will inadvertently put them in situations that heighten the problem. Puppies are not blank slates, they all have genetic tendencies and some are naturally more aggressive than others. That's one reason why it's important to buy from a dog whose pedigree is known to contain dogs of good temperament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 such beautiful dogs and i dont know what happened to them! :) probably nothing! we have beautiful dogs .. fine with us & those they work with .. but they will not tolerate strangers . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fox Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I don't see how it's all that strange? Some dogs aren't friendly, regardless of how they appear. It doesn't necessarily mean that anything 'happened' to them either. My eldest dog is well bred, well trained, was socialised as a pup, affectionate and trustworthy with his family and those he knows, can remain neutral in most situations (around bikes, kids, crowds, etc), but he's certainly not friendly and can be quite reactive if attention is forced on him. If you asked to pat him in the street I would respond in the same was - no, he's not friendly. Be thankful that the owner is responsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixeduppup Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 my friend has a jrt great with his family and selected friends but no one else. as long as the dogs are in control it should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCheekyMonster Posted July 15, 2012 Author Share Posted July 15, 2012 (edited) 2 dogs, from 8 weeks old pups, both aggressive towards people... for me it was strange because in 2 years of seeing them every morning when i left for school and every arvo when i came back and have never seen them react to anything... it was just not what i expected... and to have 2 aggressive dogs must be pretty bad luck... and I think more than a want to be martingale should be on them if thats how they react, to bad if i was a little closer and asked the question or I was a child.....my secondary reaction was why dont you have a muzzle on those things.. as I stated my street is very people and family orientated people and kids running around all the time.... when I did have that brief discussion, his explanation was they are a bit funny?.... Edited July 15, 2012 by TheCheekyMonster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodoggies2001 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I don't see how it's all that strange? Some dogs aren't friendly, regardless of how they appear. It doesn't necessarily mean that anything 'happened' to them either. My eldest dog is well bred, well trained, was socialised as a pup, affectionate and trustworthy with his family and those he knows, can remain neutral in most situations (around bikes, kids, crowds, etc), but he's certainly not friendly and can be quite reactive if attention is forced on him. If you asked to pat him in the street I would respond in the same was - no, he's not friendly. Be thankful that the owner is responsible. Yes and we have all been taught that we should always ask first if we can pat someone's dog. At least the OP did do that, but she got an unexpected answer. My pup doesn't like to be picked up by people he is not familiar with and at the park the other day, a lady picked him up without asking and when he realised it wasn't me holding, he let out an almighty scream. The look on her face was priceless. Serves her right is all I can say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I think more than a want to be martingale should be on them if thats how they react, in 2 years of seeing them every morning when i left for school and every arvo when i came back and have never seen them react to anything... well, if in two years you have not seen them react , maybe the owner is not concerned ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espinay2 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 (edited) The owner has two dogs, well controlled in public and healthy. He walks them twice a day and obviously cares for them. When asked he responsibly requested that you do not pat them. Sounds VERY responsible to me!! Some dogs can act agressively for a wide variety of reasons and most of them may be nothing to do with what the owner did or didn't do. I used to have a DA Dalmatian. To look at her, see her with dogs she knows or to pass her in the street you wouldn't have a clue that she had a problem. She could be at a show, under control and not have a problem. BUT at a show when she was a pup she was attacked in the carpark by a loose border collie. As a result she was 'funny like that' when approached by strange black dogs in particular. So impose your scenario on me, and you are walking up with your dog 'can he say hello?' - you keep approaching to towards us with your dog ... Me replies 'no, she isn't friendly...she is funny like that' (I am not about to stand there and explain the whole back story to a stranger!).....just how 'shocked' are you going to be, if she goes off, thinking that you and your dog, who are quite focussed on her and your body language shows it (rather than just passing us by), will keep approaching? Nothing odd about it at all IMO. In fact the man should be commended for handling his dogs so responsibly and knowing how to manage their issues when in public. Edited July 15, 2012 by espinay2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smartypaws Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 The owner has two dogs, well controlled in public and healthy. He walks them twice a day and obviously cares for them. When asked he responsibly requested that you do not pat them. Sounds VERY responsible to me!! Some dogs can act agressively for a wide variety of reasons and most of them may be nothing to do with what the owner did or didn't do. I used to have a DA Dalmatian. To look at her, see her with dogs she knows or to pass her in the street you wouldn't have a clue that she had a problem. She could be at a show, under control and not have a problem. BUT at a show when she was a pup she was attacked in the carpark by a loose border collie. As a result she was 'funny like that' when approached by strange black dogs in particular. So impose your scenario on me, and you are walking up with your dog 'can he say hello?' - you keep approaching to towards us with your dog ... Me replies 'no, she isn't friendly...she is funny like that' (I am not about to stand there and explain the whole back story to a stranger!).....just how 'shocked' are you going to be, if she goes off, thinking that you and your dog, who are quite focussed on her and your body language shows it (rather than just passing us by), will keep approaching? Nothing odd about it at all IMO. In fact the man should be commended for handling his dogs so responsibly and knowing how to manage their issues when in public. +1. Seems like an owner who is acting responsibly and in the best interests of his dogs. Also, I have 3 dogs, 2 friendly and one nervous with strangers. If you asked if you could pat them I would also say no they aren't friendly, even though two of them are - by the time you are 5 metres and closing on my nervous dog I wouldn't take the time to explain the difference. My nervous, sometimes reactive dog has also been well socialised and is well trained, but genetically anxious.......your assumptions may not be correct about these dogs. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raineth Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I could be reading this wrong, but I don't think cheekymonster was saying the owner was irresponsible. They were just saying it was a bit of shock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 .... WTF!!!!!! how does that work? if you saw these dogs you would think they are the most loved and cared for dogs, yet to see it react like that from a person 5 meters away was just mind boggling.... why do you think they are not loved? Some dogs aren't friendly why is that so hard to accept? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 hmmm, that is interesting. I know what you mean, he seems very responsible, and the dogs well-behaved, so you would expect that they've been well socialised, and therefore to be human-friendly. I wonder if he neglected their socialisation in that area? why is it so hard to believe that some dogs are not born perfect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sausy.dog Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 .... WTF!!!!!! how does that work? if you saw these dogs you would think they are the most loved and cared for dogs, yet to see it react like that from a person 5 meters away was just mind boggling.... why do you think they are not loved? Some dogs aren't friendly why is that so hard to accept? I agree. If they grew up together it is likely that one (probably the kelpie) was born like it and the other learned the behaviour. Growing up we had lots of kelpies and some were not overly friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkehre Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 (edited) ... and what's not to say that he doesn't like them being this way. Perhaps he raises them to not like strangers, and perhaps they may not act this way on walks with anyone unless this person is engaging him in conversation and directly approaching, but just obviously walking by? You just never know. I too tend to think one was this way inclined and the other copied the behaviour, but have no way of knowing. For whatever reason the dogs are the way they are does not indicate that they are not well cared for and loved by a responsible owner. I do not think it is odd at all. Personally I would not enjoy owning dogs like this, but some dogs just do not like strangers and you would not notice unless you were doing exactly what you were doing. Edited July 15, 2012 by dyzney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I do not think it is odd at all. me either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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