Kirislin Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 I dont find her cute to look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixeduppup Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I dont find her cute to look at. I was kinda sick looking at her. I honestly feel she should have been PTS at birth, it was obvious that she was a very unwell dog from the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yonjuro Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Poor little thing My first impression was she should be put to sleep, however she seems to be getting lots of care and love and seems to be relatively happy???? I dunno, it is very sad for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Gifts Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 That broke my heart in an angry way. A dog that can only wriggle is a dog being kept alive for the wrong reasons. And she has a high pain threshold? Well what other options does she have? If Rosie had a say on whether she wanted to live another year like that I bet she'd say "thank you for saving me but this life is too hard; please let me go now." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 That broke my heart in an angry way. A dog that can only wriggle is a dog being kept alive for the wrong reasons. And she has a high pain threshold? Well what other options does she have? If Rosie had a say on whether she wanted to live another year like that I bet she'd say "thank you for saving me but this life is too hard; please let me go now." I think I'd have to agree with you there Ams... ... even though I obviously have a warped idea of "cute"... *grin* T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PL_ Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) If that's a bald pink chihuahua that looks like one of those hairless mice, she was taken from hoarders who had them stashed everywhere (incl in the roof) all the dogs were generations of indiscriminate inbreeding. Many were PTS for incredible deformities. She was one they showed seeing the vet multiple times and apparently being given the green light. So she is/was far from being untreated for whatever is wrong with her. But honestly, seeing people trot these animals out on FB to get their fix of adulation makes me feel physically ill. "ooh you are truly an angel" "nobody would do what you have done" "bless your heart" yadda yadda Gimmie a break. Even worse when they peddle the terrified partially immobile things out in public for people to paw. Edited July 17, 2013 by Powerlegs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Gifts Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 T I can see how her carer/owner has fallen in love with her and I can imagine she says to herself that Rosie will let her know when she has had enough of this life but the only moments of happiness for Rosie are the things others are doing for or to her. Think of the doggy things your own fur kids love to do, even Pickles. Can Rosie destroy a stuffed toy or roll on her back in the grass or sniff out all the neighbourhood poles? Can she lay in the sun and wait to scare the postman? Can she walk on wet grass or play tug? Can she dig a hole and lay in it? Can she play with other dogs on her own terms or is it simply that they come up and sniff her? Can she even chew on a bone? I can also see her cuteness (I have a weakness for the uglies too!) but it is like a baby that will never grow up. I just feel sad that this is her life whether she wants it like this or not. 3.5 years is an awfully long time to just be laying around doing nothing that comes naturally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 and that poor creature's sibling has no front legs .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 T I can see how her carer/owner has fallen in love with her and I can imagine she says to herself that Rosie will let her know when she has had enough of this life but the only moments of happiness for Rosie are the things others are doing for or to her. Think of the doggy things your own fur kids love to do, even Pickles. Can Rosie destroy a stuffed toy or roll on her back in the grass or sniff out all the neighbourhood poles? Can she lay in the sun and wait to scare the postman? Can she walk on wet grass or play tug? Can she dig a hole and lay in it? Can she play with other dogs on her own terms or is it simply that they come up and sniff her? Can she even chew on a bone? I can also see her cuteness (I have a weakness for the uglies too!) but it is like a baby that will never grow up. I just feel sad that this is her life whether she wants it like this or not. 3.5 years is an awfully long time to just be laying around doing nothing that comes naturally. Some people suggested early in the piece that Pickles may have been better off pts... but they had never met her in the flesh and seen how well she copes with her disability. To me, she is normal (well, normal for Pickles anyways) - and very much a part of my family... OK, she has also decided that she's the number 1 dog here and lords it over all the others, and is the most bloody destructive and naughty dog I've ever owned... but I wouldn't have it any other way. There is a "spark" that the special ones have that only an owner/carer really understands... Pickles has it... and maybe Rosie has it too? Personally, I probably would have given Rosie her wings when she was first removed from the hoarder... but I've never met her - maybe there is something about her spirit that "tells" he carer that they are doing the right thing for her? T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelpiecuddles Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I read up on Rosie a while back. As I understand it her joints are fused so she kind of pushes herself along. The person who cares for her I believe specialises in rescue for animals with deformities and things of that nature. I would question her quality of life but according to the carer she behaves in certain ways when she is unhappy, etc so the carer is aware of her ups and downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) I don't know how I feel about it really. She is obviously being cared for but I don't think we can say whether she has any quality of life without actually being there and living with her. I just hope she is happy and kept comfortable T, I agree :) Edited July 17, 2013 by Aussie3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJJ Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I must say I am skeptical about just how much quality of life that dog has, personally I would prefer to see the resources that are devoted to keeping it alive go to other dogs that have the misfortune to be boring and normal when in need of rescue and so do not tug at the heartstrings of some people so much, but I guess that is the choice her rescuer is happy making Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixeduppup Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I must say I am skeptical about just how much quality of life that dog has, personally I would prefer to see the resources that are devoted to keeping it alive go to other dogs that have the misfortune to be boring and normal when in need of rescue and so do not tug at the heartstrings of some people so much, but I guess that is the choice her rescuer is happy making This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I wouldn't have let it take it's first breath, the poor thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I must say I am skeptical about just how much quality of life that dog has, personally I would prefer to see the resources that are devoted to keeping it alive go to other dogs that have the misfortune to be boring and normal when in need of rescue and so do not tug at the heartstrings of some people so much, but I guess that is the choice her rescuer is happy making This! Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyBlue Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 To be honest, I'm surprised she survived in a horders house. Maybe she has such a will to live that it is worth them devoting resources to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trisven13 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I will confess that part of my issue is that I find her hideous and a large part of that has to do with her disabilities. I feel terrible saying that as I don't believe we should judge humans based on looks BUT I look her and my mind screams "she shouldn't be here". I don't doubt that she is loved and well cared for but I do question her quality of life. I look at her pictures and I cringe - I hate that she was bred, I struggle with how her life has been to stay alive (whilst I really admire her determination to still be here) and I wonder at why she is kept alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wundahoo Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) Dogs like Rosie are special and have a really strong will to live.... just like some people who suffer terrible adversity and yet who still fight to stay around and always seem to make the best of a bad situation. I'm sure that she will be one of those dogs who just wants to be here on this earth and who tries so hard to be happy. She is to be admired for that. Her carer is obviously well aware of her predicament and sounds as though she is very experienced in dealing with special needs dogs. From what I could see, Rosie looks to be remarkably healthy in spite of her major limitations. I currently have a rescue who is one of those "special" dogs. He came to me a bit more than 2 years ago and was surrendered to me after the owner was threatened with an RSPCA report. He had been severely neglected and was terribly ill..... very, very ill. I wont go into details but his treatment was expensive (over $4000 and subsidised by the treating vets for almost as much again) and it was long and harrowing. He has been left horribly, extensively and permanently scarred. Some people cant bear to touch him or pat him because of his awful appearance. I would post a photo but I dont want this thread to turn into a "freak show". At one stage after he developed a serious and life threatening complication, it was suggested to me that perhaps I should let him go but I was convinced that he wasnt ready yet..... he was a very tough dog and wanted so much to be here, so I persisted. He is now well and is the happiest dog !! He will never be competely cured but he is comfortable, cared for and loved......everything that a dog could possibly want. I dont care what he looks like because I see his beautiful soul...... I think that Rosie is much the same...... surely, if she wasnt a tough little character with a very strong will to survive, she would have died fairly soon. She deserves to be allowed to live her life, with the help of her owner who obviously cares greatly for her. These "special" dogs deserve to be looked upon with respect and afforded some dignity. They dont want our pity because they dont have a concept of that. They just want to be able to live their life. As long as they are not suffering intolerably and can cope with whatever disability they have then they have a right to a good existence. No doubt they need our help to do that but just because they are ugly or deformed or cant get around quite the way that they should is not reason for us to judge their right to exist. Edit for spelling Edited July 17, 2013 by Wundahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skruffy n Flea Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 wundahoo, thank you for you :) i wanted to say as much as you and even a couple of posters in this thread came close to saying a little of how i feel on this topic. as sad as it seems to be to us, dogs is dogs and from what i understand, they don't rationalise; they just be. they don't look at another dog and think 'damn, why can't i?' BUT i do believe they have, despite any limitation, a natural desire and THAT is where i'm torn --- that wee chi can't tear up a soft toy, or chase a ball and obviously quite a bit more of what comes naturally to a dog in its pursuit of 'happy'ness. that isn't to say however that rosie doesn't have a comfortable, pain-free and enjoyable existence; her carer is a specialist and that video depicts a life for that beautiful little dog as being warm, healthy and loving, and as i think T and most certainly wundahoo said, and also myself, rosie would have given it up way before this if her body couldn't cope with the life she's been handed. rosie doesn't move or play the same way as the dogs i know, but if she had any issue eating or digesting or pooping, then it would be a much more grave situation and i'd be less in favour... i was reminded lately about another dog, faith, who i believe was recently 'retired' from her celebrity life at about the age of 10 years --- HER story really made me think about the kinds of relationship between humans and their best friend, and whether it really is, in all honesty, worth the spectacle... rosie's story bears no relevance to that of faith's life, BUT both have deformities and from what i can tell, both exist reasonably well, even tho i believe faith shouldn't have been made to perform and that perhaps a cart could've been constructed to make her lower body work the way nature intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 People scream blue murder when a "registered breeder" breeder produces and animal with issues or we supposedly breed to the "extreme" , yet we crap on about how this dog must have a will to live and deserves to be here etc etc. Really it should have been culled at birth. You can dress it up however you like but this dog does not have a good quality of life, neither does the dog with no front legs and that poor Kangaroo was as miserable as all get up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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