BC Crazy

This !!!! I too have heard of a very similar thing happening re check chains & 2 dogs getting tangled up, panicking & both died. One dog got his teeth somehow caught in the others dogs check chain, pulling it tighter & tighter, a fight erupted between the 2 dogs in total stress of the situation & within minutes, both dogs were pronounced dead as the owner of the dogs couldn't get them apart in time No collars on my dogs at home EVER. Not worth the risk IMHO. When we are out, naturally they are both collared & leaded.

Really makes me so cranky when people don't do their research BEFORE getting a puppy/dog or anything with a heart beat for that matter. I just don't get it. And the very sad irony is more often then not the dog is the one that suffers or worse through no fault of it's own.

Some people make me ashamed I am human B@st@rds !!!!! Sorry but they are,

:laugh: Bet you he did :laugh:

Yes minimax same... It certainly isn't something I'd encourage for any extended period of time or repeatedly IMHO. I think common sense has to come into play here & the dog's well being HAS to be top priority when doing any kind of physical activity with them. Most Border Collies or working breed will generally just keep going & going if allowed too. So I always keep a very close I on their movement, make sure they aren't running or whatever on really hard surfaces & the actual time I am working with mine so as not to over do it. I have been told my guys are too 'pampered' but I would rather be as safe as possible than have an injured dog I have been thinking I'd love to start to teach Stella to play frizbee but I do have concerns about all the jumping & twisting that it involves for her. So am going to try to keep throwing it fairly low if I can to minimize the impact to her body & make sure she is warmed up before we start. See how we go :)

Yes missimoo, I too love to see the next generation really enjoying their dogs & all they have to give :)

Very good point dancnbc's re the back flips. Must admit they looked so impressive & I loved them, I would hate to think of the damage that could be done to the beautiful dog's spine & hip joints etc if she landed the wrong way or on uneven ground. Or if this trick was repeated too often, the concussion on the legs would worry me.

:laugh: :laugh: Yes Stans mum, come on it's only once a year... don't be a spoilt sport

Oh Luka is awsome !!!! & the beautiful boy has grown lots... Love the pic of him peaking over the fence Frodo's mum. He looks like such a gentle guy running around playing with an apple :laugh: funny boy.

Happy Birthday Stan, big 5 today !! Enjoy your pie beautiful boy. Lovely pic's stans mum. You can tell Stan & Maddie are best mates. So nice to see :D

WOW !!!! Zoe is really amazing. What a clever girl... & so pretty. I love the trick where she runs up & rebounds off her owner. Also where she looks between her own front legs. "Peek-a-Boo". Many many hours of training but look at what they have achieved. Fantastic to see such a wonderful partnership. Thanks for sharing Minimax. Loved it !!! :D

I have just sent off for some samples of Artemis OSoPure salmon out of interest as it looks really good ingredient wise :)

I am just about to start clicker training too. I have to practise first. I did try it a couple of years ago but couldn't seem to manage it. Not enough hands or something. But am up for another go. I know it will benefit Stella. Instead of me instructing Stel on what to do, it will make Stella think & problem solve. I have just started reading a suggested read by Corvus. Fired up, Freaked Out & Frantic. Am lovin it. I love the way it is written as it is very simply written & easy to understand as I a very slow learner. Once I get it I am OK. See how we go :)

Another natural pet store user here for our dry dog food & it's on my door step with in 2 days of me placing the order & I'm on north of Newcastle. All this for a fantastic $5 delivery fee.

Yes Haredown Wippets very good point. I did notice that some brands of grain free with protein levels up around 40+ % which is very high. First thing I always look for when reading the ingredient listing as I certainly don't need my 2 Border Collies full to the eye balls with protein. I like to stick around the low 20's if I can.

What a good boy Birdie is Funniest looking Bull mastiff I have seen :laugh:

I must admit the results going from an Holistic grain dry food to a premium grain free blew me away. If someone had of told me the speed & the enormity of the improvement that my guys showed, I would never of believed them.

TOTW is another great grain free dry food which works really well for my guys but thats the thing it is finding what works for your dog. It takes a while but try a few, see how your dog goes :)

We are huge fans of EBH here. My guys love it & do very well on it . We use the grain free one. One of my guys had a food intolerance issue & within 24 hours of changing over to the spoken food the difference in my dog's appearence was amazing. No more stale smell. 48 hours, coat had started to improve. 6 months on we are so much improved. Dogs look great. Very happy :)

I agree with what you are saying corvus. I think it is very fer based. I also think she charges at them to keep them away from us.Stella doesn't like dogs coming too close to me or trying to join in with us. She is fine with most dogs but the ones she perceives as threats, she charges at them, running & growling. Thats where it is so hard to predict or intervene to stop her. She tries to get Sonny to do it as well cause she looks at him or runs at him first like, 'come on lets get em' type thing. I am pleased Sonny doesn't join her. If anything I have noticed Sonny run after Stella while she is charging on occassion at the other dog & he nips her on her back. Telling her off is what it looks like to me & then he comes straight back to me. I am very pleased she doesn't do this charging thing nearly as often as she used to as I can never predict just which dog will set her off. It is never small dogs & her fav dog is a 60 kg Malamute, she adores him. Stella is very,very easily aroused. She can go from 0 to 100 in a split second. She can be sound asleep at home, hear something, anything, then she is off flat out, running & crying at the same time. I also find movement arouses her. Like if other dogs are running past or playing near us, she starts crying & getting anxious & ready to run at them. With the meds I have noticed a big difference with the speed at which she returns to a calm state which is great.

Oh thanks Tassie for your vote of confidence. It's funny with the Boxer thing cause Stella as I say has hated this girl from the word go & I did speak to her breeder regarding this reaction very early in the piece & she said the exact same thing as you. The upright stance of the Boxer is very confronting & they read it as threatening. And their kind of bouncy & goofy. Their play style is completely different to BC's. Another funny thing is this particular Boxer & Sonny my male BC used to be besties before I got Stella. Since then that bitch can't come within 50 feet of Sonny cause Stella charges her. She is OK with other Boxers, she ignores them,she doesn't charge at them like she is going to rip their heads off. I think their may be a jealously issue involved as well. Anyway I am so glad their was no blood spilt too. Stella got the message I was NOT happy jan :laugh: She was very sheepish with me for a while after. She is making marked improvement ATM. Only little things but mostly positive so I am very pleased. Just worried she will get badly hurt one day if she picks the wrong dog to throw her weight around with. That's another thing she rarely does that awful behaviour now & she used to do it quite often when she was an adolesent. I so hope I can train it out of her eventually. Maybe just won't happen with Boxers though :)

I buy the Brunswick Sardines in oil for my guys & they love them I'm another who wouldn't feed prawn heads with the spikes on. Might damage their intestines or something. I don't know.

Yes beautiful photo's of your very dear Fred Kingbob. Such a sweet boy So sorry for your loss. Run pain free now

Stella is still going pretty well though we did have a bit of a run in with her non favourite boxer bitch that she has hated since a puppy. Stella was in swimming with me when the boxer suddenly appeared & began to walk past us along the shore. I didn't see her coming or I would of grabbed Stella. Stella ran out of the water growling & had a face off with her. The boxer is submissive, lays down & Stella charges over to her, growls at her face. She never bites her or anything but I hate that stand over, bullish behaviour. I didn't engage Stella but walked quickly over & took her by the collar & turned her away from the boxer so she could get up & leave. I put Stella in a down position for a few minutes & ignored her before realising her. The owner of the boxer never has a lead for her girl which I don't agree with. I sure as hell wouldn't leave the house with a dog & no lead myself but anyway I so wish I could stop Stella's from doing this.Why she does it is beyond me. And it is very random. I usually can intervene & LAT with her works but I blame myself this time as I didn't see the boxer coming. Other than this incident she has been going well am trying to stay positive though. Don't know if there is a better way for me to handle her when she is in the moment, standing over another dog, to discourage this behaviour? interested in others positive input. What should I do besides what I did? Is their a more effective punishment or deterrent?

yes I cut their food intake in half as well as Nekhbet suggested Fruit or veg for treats & make him work for everyone of them. You will see the weight vanish. I did this with one of mine. Outstanding results. Good luck