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What's Wrong With Horse?

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jaybeece   

How can anyone think many small meals=underfeeding him? he eats 1.5kgs of food a day!!

I could feed my dog 5kgs of pumpkin a day. Just because he eats 5kgs of it doesn't mean his body isn't being starved of nutrition leading to massive weight loss. Fillers do exactly that, fill you up and give you little to no nutrition for it.

Honestly if I had your dog, other than taking it to a good vet to see if there are any underlying diseases, etc. I would be feeding him at lib [leaving a decent amount of good dry food out at all times] to allow the dog to regulate its food and put some weight back on. Once he has reached a better wieght then go back to feeding him a few times a day.

I am absolutely horrified at the condition of that dog, especially that it is supposed to be an assistance dog. I am not at all surprised the RSPCA have been around to check him out-I am surprised they didn't take him off of you! If I ever saw someone's dog like that I would report them.

You need to wake up to reality, stop make excuses especially ones with are anatomically impossible! There are a number of vets and vet nurses on this site...they know the anatomy of a dog! [Guess where the human stomach is...oh within the ribcage! Fancy that]

Your dog is STARVING on the diet it is on. Something NEEDS to change!

No one is going to condemn you a bad owner if you listen to the advice given and act accordingly for the dogs benefit. However, denying the obvious and letting your poor dog suffer...:mad

Horse 2008, please read this then reread it! Especially the bolded part. Provided the vet check is clear, the only issue this dog has is you and your unwillingess to consider that you've got his diet very wrong.

It's great you've ordered some different food though, I hope you take the advice from this thread and completely rethink your ideas about dog nutrition.

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TrinaJ   

1.5kg of rubbish = lots of shit and nothing substantial to put weight on and keep it on. The quality of food you feed is important.

(sorry haven't read past page 4 yet)

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Cordelia   

Stop feeding your dog 5 times a day. that's ridiculous.. as is your claim that his ribs prevent him from digesting food like a normal dog.

Feeding so frequently has taught his body to metabolise his food very quickly. (when people diet they eat small, frequent meals to teach their body to burn faster, therefore, losing weight)..

2 meals per day of a PUPPY FOOD, mince AND chicken frames

I would think that whoever reported you for feeding your dog inadequately.. was spot on.

Listen to the advice you've been given.

otherwise, you are simply being a troll and trying to upset people on purpose.

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animalia   

When I exercise my Heeler A LOT I have to try and maintain her weight by giving her two meals a day and the best product I came across to keep her weight on was Eagle pack- working dog (I think in the orange bag). As this is a high end food it doesn't have fillers so she doesn't poo that much considering how much I feed her. When she's not doing as much I feed her once per day and I have her on Eagle Pack- adult so she doesn't stack on the weight.

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Too skinny.

More calories (aka puppy food), more protein, less filler. Plenty of good advice here and stacks on the internet.

I'm confused by the stuff about his ribs and build stopping him digesting - who told you that?? It makes no sense unless I'm being specially dense. :o He looks like a standard underweight dog to me.

Yes you do get dogs who fail to gain weight and you may well own one with a metabolic or food sensitivity issue but that needs veterinary help not advice from a forum.

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horse 2008, if you're not taking heed of the advice given in this thread then you only have yourself to blame for your dog's condition --- and your dog is already suffering...

has the vet talked to you about your dog's thyroid? canine hyperthyroidism

...

One of the most common and most noticeable symptoms of canine hyperthyroidism is weight loss despite an unusually ravenous appetite. If your pet is eating more than normal and yet seems to be getting thinner and thinner, you should have him or her checked out for this endocrine condition. Sometimes dogs with this disease will eat so quickly that they end up vomiting. Some pets may also experience diarrhea. Also, excessive thirst may accompany the characteristic voracious appetite.

...

pm erny for details on having the bloods sent to dr jean dodds in the states.

good luck in your endeavours :)

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Clyde   

I think everyone, that you're simply flogging a dead Horse. The OP hasn't been back for some time....

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raffikki   

I think everyone, that you're simply flogging a dead Horse. The OP hasn't been back for some time....

I just had a look and the OP was Last Active: Jul 18 2011 12:42 AM

With a bit of luck he/she is still reading the replies and taking the advise given :crossfingers:

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I was under the impression that with EIC they dont actually lose consciousness though??

Not to mention that EIC rarely occurs without heavy exercise . . . most affected dogs (ie, dogs with a double dose of the faulty gene) are never symptomatic.

I wouldn't worry about the long rib cage / short coupling. Labs are supposed to be short coupled, and it generally doesn't interfere with their packing on weight.

I agree with others about no more than two meals a day and cutting the canned . . . especially catfood. Chicken mince is fine, especially if it was made for dogs (includes bones) and you don't cook it. Then either going the raw food . . . or quality dry food route . . . or some combination. If you dog is happy eating carrots, he is hungry. You are starving him.

Personally, I'd correct the diet first . . . if that goes nowhere, I'd work with a good vet.

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Erny   

If its coming out the back end undigested it means there is a medical issue to address

But is it really? Carrots will go through a dog in chunks, does not mean the dog has a digestion problem.

Sorry to butt in here and take this slightly OT to something I've been curious about with my own dog. Carrots coming out in chunks the other end after ingestion I can understand. They have a 'woody' nature to them and dogs (I believe) don't have the enzymes to begin the 'break-down' of vegetables, which is why we normally talk about beginning the process by freezing and defrosting; using a blender or juicer etc.

But something that surprised me a bit was when I gave my boy some cooked peas as an "extra" (treat) and noticed that many of them came through whole after passing through the digestive system. Only difference was that they looked a little older and slightly more wrinkled. But I admit I didn't expect them to pass quite so untouched.

I too did think this pointed to digestive issues that I yet haven't uncovered (most would know I've been working on this for a long time). But I'd like to put my musing up here so someone might tell me that the passing of whole cooked peas could also be a normal and expected occurrence ???

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But something that surprised me a bit was when I gave my boy some cooked peas as an "extra" (treat) and noticed that many of them came through whole after passing through the digestive system. Only difference was that they looked a little older and slightly more wrinkled. But I admit I didn't expect them to pass quite so untouched.

I too did think this pointed to digestive issues that I yet haven't uncovered (most would know I've been working on this for a long time). But I'd like to put my musing up here so someone might tell me that the passing of whole cooked peas could also be a normal and expected occurrence ???

Nope, not an issue - it's the skin... He would've swallowed most of them whole and the skin isn't digestible = whole peas out the other end. If you swallow peas whole the same thing will happen to you! This will happen with anything with a tough outer skin, so a lot of legumes, corn, etc. So even cooked things like that will need mashing. So it was perfectly normal :)

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Erny   

Nope, not an issue - it's the skin... He would've swallowed most of them whole and the skin isn't digestible = whole peas out the other end. If you swallow peas whole the same thing will happen to you! This will happen with anything with a tough outer skin, so a lot of legumes, corn, etc. So even cooked things like that will need mashing. So it was perfectly normal :)

Thank you ZA. Didn't think about the outer skin :rolleyes:. Will mash it next time. :)

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tlc   

Re: peas that makes a lot of sense, our old dog loved his veges and always got veges (left overs ) with his nightly meal and my OH always commented on the poop patrol about the whole peas! :laugh: another funny thing was our old boy never ate caulie, we would even try to disguise it and it would be the only thing left in the bowl every time, untouched!

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No worries Erny :) our flat grinding teeth definitely give us the advantage with those tough skins! ;)

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