Leema Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 This was interesting and funny. :) http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/guard-dogs-more-friendly-furious-put-test-video-211754888.html An unintentionally hilarious investigation into the effectiveness of guard dogs finds that if you're a loving pet owner, your dog probably can't be counted on to stop intruders.CBS Atlanta teamed up with some local dog owners and a professional dog trainer to see if burglars have much, if anything, to fear. The station enlisted the help of Jeff Schettler, who runs the Georgia K9 National Training Center. Schettler dressed in a 40-pound protective suit and entered each dog owner's home, simulating a burglary. And unfortunately for the dog owners, had Schettler been a real criminal, he would have made it out safely in every single attempt. "Even when they are in their own home, they can be a bit nervous," he told the station. And even when they aren't nervous, they might just be downright friendly. For example, Star, a 10-pound papillon mix, let Schettler cradle her in his arms and carry her outside the home. The other guard dogs in the test included a 38-pound Brittany spaniel named Calico; a 29-pound English Staffordshire terrier (aka, pit bull) named Bindi; an 85-pound Rottweiler named Roxie; and Kevlar, a 100-pound German shepherd. If you guessed the pit bull would be the most ferocious, you'd be dead wrong. In fact, Bindi performs tricks for Schettler when he enters her home, repeatedly waving her front paw in his direction and licking his face. Kevlar puts up the most resistance, nipping at Schettler's legs when he heads upstairs to the area that contains the dog's kennel. But even then, Kevlar quickly retreats, running back downstairs and leaving Schettler to go about his business. You can watch the full series of guard dog test videos below: Several people have offered their own list of breeds that make the best guards. But Schettler says it has more to do with how the owner has raised the animal and how it has been trained. A number of locations around the country offer guard dog rental services to paying customers. Please go to the link and watch the video! Well worth it. :laugh: The little staffy doing tricks for the 'intruder' is pretty funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixeduppup Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 :laugh: He wouldn't be so lucky with Ammo if we weren't home, I should invite him over but he best wear his suit. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skully Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) why did they call the English Staffordshire Terrier AKA pit bull?!?! Edited November 30, 2012 by skully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 One of my dogs will give the whole "I'm a big vicious guard dog routine" when a stranger comes to the door or back yard gate. Another will back her up making scary crazy faces. Usually this is enough for most intruders to have second thoughts. Both of these dogs will actually tart up to you and demand cuddles if you come in. The one that you'd think is "friendly" when I'm not home most certainly won't be - and she won't warn you either... The puppy will probably want to kiss you though... *grin* T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korbin13 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) why did they call the English Staffordshire Terrier AKA pit bull?!?! Because in the US any bull breed is called a pitbull. Edit: Meant to say how funny is that! Edited November 30, 2012 by korbin13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepe001 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 The problem with these results is they were trialled with a professional dog trainer who showed no fear. Replace him with most (not sure if most is correct - maybe many) crims who would creep around, look suspecious, be unsure of the dogs. It is all in the confidence of the crim. I remember when having aggression issues with a large dog in my past. A dog training pro came around and she was putty in his hands. He said to me ' so where is this aggressive dog as she rolled on her back and licked his hands'. Previously, she had tried to take out various men who dared to come to close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I agree pepe, for your average opportunistic criminal the dogs barking at the door would be enough to send them looking for somewhere else to target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantis Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 :laugh: He wouldn't be so lucky with Ammo if we weren't home, I should invite him over but he best wear his suit. :laugh: He would have been safe in my house if I wasn't home when I had Kenny, because he would just be happy to have a human to play with. :laugh: BUT, if he came into my house at night while I was asleep, good luck to him. Kenny bailed up my Ex & knocked him to the ground, when he decided to visit late at night after being at the pub & jumped my back fence, Kenny wouldn't let him up until I told him to leave. He knew this man from the day he was born, so I hate to think what would happen to a stranger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabbath Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 They called Bindi an English 'stRaffordshire' terrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabbath Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Still good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 The problem with these results is they were trialled with a professional dog trainer who showed no fear. I agree, that is the key with the majority of dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddy Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 One of our dogs will bark when he hears the gate or door open but it's actually excited "OMG I HAVE VISITORS I LOVE VISITORS OMG TREATS OMG VISITORS!" barking, even with complete strangers, he's very friendly. I guess you might end up with a few bruises on your leg as he can sometimes get a bit over-excited and then sort of rears up on people but beside that.. totally safe. Of the others, the old girl is more likely to hide, most of the fosters either bark or get excited. Bosley.. I'm not sure of. He's had tonnes of socialisation but he really doesn't seem keen on strangers or even visitors he's met before. He backs up and barks- I imagine if you cornered him in the house or he felt threatened enough, he might nip at someone. Really though.. I could think of nothing more dangerous than a dog that will attack people who enter without the owner present. A dog that doesn't know the difference between a delivery person and a thief is a dog that may find itself wearing a DD collar if the owners aren't careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I wouldn't have been comfortable about the body language the Rotti was showing... they don't normally warn you before they bite (from my own experience having owned a number of them). I wonder what happened when the guy tried to leave? T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancinbcs Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Many years ago a friend came home to find a window broken. She rushed inside to check on her GSD and found a happy looking dog and a small patch of blood stained denim from the seat of someone's jeans. Nothing was stolen so the dog on that occasion did it's job as a guard dog and no one ever broke in again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) The other thing is he walked through the front door and in one case knocked on the door - as well as not being at all worried or frightenend by the dogs. I remember someone saying that their dogs would probably let a thief in if they walked throught he front door. If they went through a window over a fence and places the dogs didn't expect to see people they would get more of a reaction. Rommi would mug a thief for pats, Lewis would probably be indifferent and only worry if they stole his bean bag Edited November 30, 2012 by OSoSwift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zug Zug Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Great video - I loved the papillon! I also agree - the barking is enough in most cases, and a burglar doesn't know what your dog will do and is unlikely to be suited up to feel as confident at this guy, who clearly knew what he was about. I had an interesting trial late last year, when my old dog and I were in our new home alone, getting it ready before the rest of the family moved in. We'd gone to bed for the night, then a man came to the front door around midnight. She absolutely charged the door and barked viciously and very aggressively - left the would-be intruder in no doubt as to her intentions. I was surprised but also relieved because he then ran off without a backward glance. But I would never encourage it in a dog. First and foremost, I want a safe pet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisey Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 What am I doing wrong? I can't find the video? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mita Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 The little staffy doing tricks for the 'intruder' is pretty funny. Well, my tibbies bucked the trend in that their hackles went up & they took off chasing a thief who was coming into our house. The same night, the same thief broke into another house up the road...& he had to step over their staffy, Elvis, who slept thro' the whole thing. But those same tibbies seem to be able to pick up that the majority of visitors that are strangers to them... are OK. They love making friends with them. I wonder if 'baddies' give off some kind of high anxiety scent, which dogs can pick up??? I also heard a police dog squad officer say that his police dog, when at home, would probably make friends with a burglar.... because he did his doggie policing work only at the direction of his handler. Rest of the time, he was just a big friendly boofer. Man next door, ex-Navy, told me how Dog Handlers came on to his base one day with their military dog He asked was it OK to pat the dog... the handlers said fine....& he made friends with the gorgeous shepherd. He asked them how could such a friendly dog be a military dog. The handler showed him. Gave the dog orders to guard him....while they went over to the office. They warned him not to move as the dog was now in 'working' mode & would take him out. And, so, the dog watched him like a hawk until the handler came back. Order was given to 'stand down'...& the dog returned to 'friendly' dog mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantis Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Great video - I loved the papillon! I also agree - the barking is enough in most cases, and a burglar doesn't know what your dog will do and is unlikely to be suited up to feel as confident at this guy, who clearly knew what he was about. I had an interesting trial late last year, when my old dog and I were in our new home alone, getting it ready before the rest of the family moved in. We'd gone to bed for the night, then a man came to the front door around midnight. She absolutely charged the door and barked viciously and very aggressively - left the would-be intruder in no doubt as to her intentions. I was surprised but also relieved because he then ran off without a backward glance. But I would never encourage it in a dog. First and foremost, I want a safe pet. You don't have to encourage them, a dog will naturally protect their owner, when in a vulnerable state. As the example I gave in my earlier post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plan B Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 They called Bindi an English 'stRaffordshire' terrier. You'd think with the difficulty he had pronouncing that, they'd realise it was wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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