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If Hybrid Vigour is quoted explain that true Hybrd Vigour only exists in many generations of "survival of the fittest" (ie. the Heinz mutt) and not in domestic planned breeding. Thats not 'hybrid vigor'. thats defective gene culling. true hybrid vigor is the crossing of completely unrelated breeds, eg Hereford x angus, for example. the resulting calves can weigh up to 75 kg more than their respective purebred calves. mulitily that over a couple of hundred an thats pretty significant additional income. it is a very well known practice to get heavier calves at an earlier age. but keeping the x bred's and breeding from them does not have the same effect the only way to still get an effect, albeit in a reduced level is a third cross to another unrelated breed. but thats the end of the line. to continue you need the purebreeds to cross with each other again. So the purebred seed stock as the cattle producers call them needs to be maintained, bulls recently sold to $20,000 to be used for just that purpose. the extreme example are the meat chickens, the two breeds in their pure form grow and mature normally. the cross bred chicks cannot survive to adulthood, they grow so fast and become so heavy their bones can no longer support the weight until they cannot walk if they are not processed at the optimum age for slaughter. used to work there and some took them home to rescue. every one of them became a cripple. thats how strongly hybrid vigor can be. the basic idea in dog breeding though is to reduce the incidence of Homozygous genes and thus the influence of as many recessive genes as possible so they cannot express in the pups. the catch though is instead of selecting for the ones without the deletrious recessive you have instead created a population of carriers which when mated with another unknown status carrier your back to creating homozoygous litters. the catch in the champion to champion unrelated sires only, your skirting round ever knowing which do not carry the genes you didnt want. thats where line and in breeding came in, by mating sire to daughter or mother to son you could discover if the sire or the dam were not carriers. those which were could then be removed from the breeding group. line breeding you will never know for sure which is the carrier. it has been a very successful across the board dna testing tool (that tested for every gene in the parent, unlike the single tests for the few there are tests available now we have the new very limited tool on the block) since man began breeding livestock, but the animal rights group removed that one too now.

Reading this, made me realise why so many people see so many different perspectives to what others see entirely differently... simply brilliant. A Matter of Perspective TWO WOMEN - are having a coffee and catching up: So, how was your evening last night? A disaster! After getting home, my dear beloved hubby wolfed down in 4 minutes the dinner that took me all afternoon to prepare, "granted" me 3 minutes of passionate love before rolling over and falling asleep 2 minutes later. Nightmare, and you? Oh, mine was incredible. My hubby was waiting for me to get back home from work. He took me out for a very romantic dinner. We then walked back home, under an amazing starry sky, along the canal, for a good two hours. Once home, he lit up all the candles and we had foreplay which lasted for an hour. We then made love for another hour and we chatted until late.. It was wonderful. TWO MEN - meet at the pub... So, how was your evening last night? Incredible! When I came home, the food was ready. I ate, we shagged and I fell asleep. Wonderful night, I just love my wife, You? A nightmare! I came home early to fix the kitchen shelf. When I switched on the power drill, the fuse went out. The whole house went into darkness. Couldn't find the bloody fuse box, so when my better half arrived, I took her out for dinner. It was the only thing to do to avoid getting an ear-full...! The Dinner was so expensive that I couldn't afford a taxi, so we had to walk home. It took ages and once there, the house was still in the dark, obviously, so I had to light all these f*cking candles to avoid knocking everything over. I was so wound up and pissed off that it took me an hour to get a hard on, and another hour to finish. In the end, I was still wound up and it took me ages to fall asleep, while she kept yapping on and on about everything and nothing.......total disaster.

the earlier a pup is desexed the taller it grows in comparison to an undesexed sibling. think I read a paper on that it also contributes to severity of any joint disorders eg hip displacia plus the incontinance problems

you can start with hip and elbow scores. but suspect Hybrid vigor. will be quoted as the guarantee of good health unfortunately. you could ask how often does it need clipping. if told none, what a mess that one will end up in. if she doesnt intend to learn clipping it herself, im told its costs my friend $90 a session. more if she doesnt make sure is washed and no knots before she takes it there. hip pocket pain might slow the decision down maybe?

what a seriously cute chi you hve. love the ears.

Getting a bit OT here,but yes,I have noticed the same thing and its accelerating as horses are seen more as companion animals rather than working animals. We get a whole new class of breeders starting who have no working background with horses before they start their Studs.Sires are selected based on winnings in halter rather than performance. Being a breeder seems to be seen as a status thing, Purity becomes more important and more stud books close,while new breeders rely more and more on halter winners only. It becomes about the picture,rather than the efficency of the breed for their specialiality. Very much worse in the minis I think,who aren't generaly expected to "Work".We have already been hearing of breeders used that have been sugicaly altered to mask unsoundness.Interference is becoming more accepted over culling and problems in all breeds are becoming the norm,rather than just lines that will fade out. This has been seen in some of the Straight Egyptian lines of the Arabian horse. Some looking so delicate that they would not manage well as a saddle horse, let alone an Endurance animal, been bred primarily as Halter Show Horses. Yep,I think the trend started with the Arabs,both egyptian and Polish lines.Along with the notion that line breeding should be viewed as the norm rather than an exception,used to "capture" unique type and traits not easily available otherwise. I've not been involved with the arabs for years now,but 30 years ago,the trend was well underway. Interesting to think horses might soon be in the same position as dogs,with health tests needed before breeding. already in with the ayrabs cant stand a colt at stud before its been tested for lavender foal, scids and forget what brain gene test.

didnt you read the whole thread? Dingos are not "wild animals" they came over with the koori they ARE and have been for over 40,000 years camp dogs, the ones running wild are camp dogs gone wild. no wolf was originally a camp dog and transported to where they are running wild by man like the dingo was. thats why they are so easily brought up to behave so friendly, I have a friend with a fully registered cattledog who cannot bark, she only howls, just like a dingo. whats in cattle dogs? dingo. my son has a cattle dog same. he never barks. I used to own a bitch who only ever cycled once a year. again I understand a dingo trait. No they havent been continually selected for domestic traits like our registered breeds. My neighbour had one her hubby brought home from and outback trip, I dont remember anyone who saw her think her to be any but a red heeler. We knew she was a dingo. but no one walking by ever said to my neighbour, thats a dingo. she was not kept locked in their yard, they never shut the front gate, but she never left home either, she never went further than the front path to come to our place for a play with our dogs and was a great girl. as the people behing Anne had some 20 chooks which she could see through the paling fence everyone thought as she grew she might go after them, maybe because she saw them every day she became used to them, will never know really, but she never did. nor did she ever bother to jump a fence, she didnt need too the gate was alwys open. not the way to keep a dingo and certainly not recommended but in her case it worked ok. they were lucky.As they tend to say "do not try this at home" though. but they are definately VERY different from a wolf. as anyone who has worked with or known them in a pet environment can attest.

Horse too. Wilson went to do his work out at hawkesbury for Champion Hack. Except Humphrey B Bear decided to make his appearance. if it had been points for passage OUT of the showground and HALFPASS passage AT THAT he would have had every sash available. HO well, he did get a huge round of applause for the dressage display. Pity the judge wasnt as thrilled as the spectators. sigh................

yes our Indi even went across the road and 'saved' a cut dowon peach tree and brought it home for me to throw for him to fetch around here fetching sticks and balls is considered a breed standard by indi and his descendants. aussie cattledog incidently. So does that mean if he had ever got lost he wouldnt have had a hope ummm the wait for you to throw the item brought for you to throw was guaranteed to induce a "high stress environment"

our neighbours had one, she was a lovely girl and no trouble. she didnt even go after the neighbours chooks either. Maybe jack russels have dingo hunting instincts in em? mentally at least anyway although as I understand it, that is definately not the norm and can jump like a stag if they decide too. but then my border collie was discovered to be able to clear 7 feet when he wanted too. good fencing might be a sensible idea.

Yes your right, it did break out and not just to Centenial Park, it infected every horse across the road as well but that sure got hushed up. not even a mention of that at the Inquiry. I read every line of the evidence, n nope they werent letting that little cat out of the bag. it got out without any human aid that one, it just wafted the 600 metres across to the agistement horses, friends ponies were among the first infected soley by the wind. there is nothing to stop the breath of any infected animal there from leaving over or through the boundary let alone the containment area'a where the animals are kept. there are thousands of pet birds, dogs, cats, horses and cattle within less than half a mile of the facility. foot and mouth for example carries for MILES "The virus can also survive long enough and in high enough concentrations to be spread through air currents. Spread of the disease up to 62 miles has been documented.3 Physical spread of the virus by other animals, such as birds, is possible." Yet Like EI "However, it is readily inactivated by heat, UV light, disinfectants or environments where the pH < 6.0 or >9.0." Yet Eastern creek is still being called, and used as a QUARANTINE faciltiy when in fact there are thousands of animals capable of being infected via air and birds moving freely into and out of the facility, 24/7 ...

I like the girl. much better looking than all those PM's we have had.

Yes. Plastic PP-- are approved for all international flight and have been for some time now. Hey thats what my crates are I use in the car. Nifty arent they, love the water bowls such a great idea. put a second for ther dinner if its a long trip as well. a joe/jane public told the rspca they were stuffed into boxes? NICE and airy I think they are anyway. My sisters dog likes to sleep in hers when she is in the house. (hmmm the other charge lodged was that they believed the dogs lived in them? ) when they are going to go out all they have to say is, into bed, and she gallops in ready for the car trip.

As well as this part of his evidence has still not been addressed in any form ? "The RSPCA since about 2000, to my knowledge, have been engaging private solicitors to conduct their prosecutions and one might ask why did they move to this system. It is my submission that this practice should cease and that Police Prosecutors should conduct the prosecutions for the RSPCA. I say that on this basis. By engaging private Solicitors or barristers there is no obligation on them to place before the Court evidence that may disadvantage their case. Legal and Professional Costs come into play. If their prosecution is successful they would ask for these costs. It seems unbelievable that recently in one of their prosecutions at Narrabri an amount in excess of a quarter of a million dollars was sought for costs in a matter heard in the Local Court, and as I said before, an offence not serious at law." yet politicions can spend parlimentary time discussing tempement testing at the RSPCA kennels? where on earth are their priorities. imagine how smartly the turn around if one of them, was facing over a 1/4 a million in legal fees if one of their neighbours decided to dob and an inspector "formed the opinion" without knowing the pet owner was a minister? can only hope it happens one day and the sooner the better eh :) it stunned the locals when Jacki Kelly had a car accident on the m4 and almost next day were new speed reduction signs up for that section of road. so as they say, if a pollie is affected there's "precedent" for fast action

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I am still wondering why on earth after Leon Mills letter was tabled in Parliament it has not been acted on Especially in the light it puts on the new order of "employing " solicitors only began in 2000. the fact alone that the employee got the job without tender and was a director of RSPCA NSW at the time would have had any politicions being called to fall on their sword has me very puzzled why nothig has been done to put things back to what they should be on that point alone? a previous poster had me with their take on it "Its ridiculous that a charity has greater powers (with no accountability) than a legitimate body such as police. It's like having the girl guides doing health inspections at restaurants and being able to shut down a cafe without explaining why. " Except the not so funny bit is in this case its true. sigh

Was thinking the same thing as I read it. a chap was washing his car and this dog came down the street, "politely said hullo" to him, "spotted the front door open and trotted in and settled himself on the lounge, with and expectant look as if asking, n whats for lunch"

You missed the worst part of that story. They took the dog to their vet hospital, put it under a general anaesthetic and x-rayed it all without the owner's permission or knowledge to ascertain whether the dog was a natural bob or had been docked. I was so horrified. The owner had no idea their dog had been taken and it was a brachy breed to top it off. Unnecessary GA and the dog could have died while under and who would be responsible?! Not the RSPCA!! Thats exactly what they did to my dog, exceept while under he had plugs of skin cut out and stitched when even a child could tell the removed skin had no sign of the "mange" they thought he might have. since when was mange and hypathoroydism in breech of the code of practice for breeders? forget theother tests but nope not listed either, since when was invisible mange (proven non existant as well by the skin plugs taken) a life threatening condition?

The RSPCA cannot just do as they like, they are required to get court orders to keep any animal in their care. They can enter to investigate, just like child protection and the police. I wish that were true, but I know first hand it certainly is not. I was NEVERtold the nature of the complaint, I was NEVERtold a thing by the inspector except "you will receive a letter after I have reported to my superior". I NEVERreceived a letter of any kind, I asked Alan Candlish of Dogs NSW to ask for the nature of the complaint on my behalf and if anything concerned the inspector, he too NEVERreceived a reply of any kind. In fact he was so dismayed by his treatment he made comment at the time "Ive never been treated so rudly in my life". my dog was taken 1pm on a Sunday and kept for 13 days. There were no court orders, there were not even any correspondance replied to despite I had sent two registered letters. The then Minister for Agriculture had the hide to explain to me the Whole series was the result of lack of communication on BOTH SIDES up and until the inspector decided to phone me and tell me I could pick him up. AFTER I had paid their invoice. He would not even allow me to see my dog until I refused to pay before I had seen for myself he was still alive. I suggest you read VERY CAREFULLY Leon Mills Letter again if you havent already done so.

Thanks Steve, for those who would like to view the letter, I have copied it from the pdf. as for the hansard wonder how long that would take 3rd June 2010 The Honorable Members General Purpose Standing Committee No.5 Inquiry into the R S P C A raid on the Waterways Wildlife Park Dear Members, My full name is Leon Andrew Mills and I have resided in Gunnedah since 1982, I moved to Gunnedah as a result of my applying for the Police Prosecutors position for the Gunnedah Local Court Circuit. I continued in that position until my retirement in 2006. In 2008 I stood in the Local Government elections and was successful in gaining office as a Gunnedah Shire Councillor. I am still in that position today. The two submission I would like the Honorable Committee to consider are that the compliance section of the RSPCA 9RSPCA Inspectors) be disbanded and that all the duties that they try to perform in relation to the investigation and brief preparation for alleged offences under the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act 1979 (the Act), be given to sworn Constables of the NSW Police Force in particular the Rural Crime Unit. My second submission is that all prosecutions under the Act by done by Police Prosecutors in the Local Court jurisdiction. RSPCA Inspectors obtain their powers s a result of being issued an Authority under .section 4D(2) of the Act. In relation to this Inquiry it is clear that Inspectors Prowse and French have no idea of their powers. I say that on this basis, the Act is clear in relation to what an inspector can do and is set out in Division 2 of the Act. On the Friday following the taking of the Koalas a report was broadcast on the 6.30am local A B C News that Officer Prowse said the reason for taking the Koalas was that they were “stressed”. There is no power under the Act to take an animal that is stressed. It alledging distress, as referred to in Section 24H subsection (5) of the Act, there is no evidence at all that any of these animals were suffering debility, exhaustion or significant physical injury. To support what I am submitting, the Honorable Committee would note that the Officers examined the Koalas at about 10.30-11am. They gave no treatment to these Koalas from that time until after 4.30pm, why? There was nothing wrong with them, and of course we are talking about Officers that would be expected to take immediate action if an animal was suffering debility, exhaustion or significant physical injury. These two Officers had to do something and they illegally removed these Koala for the sole purpose of the T V show R S P C A Animal Rescue. To further support this submission the head of the R S P C A Mr Steve Coleman said no proceedings would be taken against Nancy Small as a result of community outrage. I completely reject this statement. As a former Police Prosecutor of 28 years both in the city and country on rare occasions there is community outrage when some proceedings are taken. I have never before heard of proceedings for a criminal matter being abandoned or not brought because of community outrage. The reason there were no proceedings brought was that there was nothing wrong with these animals. Offences under the act are Criminal. Officers French and Prowse were supposed to be “investigating” this matter. It is interesting to note the quality of this so called investigation. No interview with Nancy Small or any other carers of these Koalas. No exhibits such as, stool samples, feed provided in the Koala enclosure, photos for identifications of each Koala, no tagging for identification. When one looks at the R S P C A Seizure Notice re this matter S N 010 16 the Officers have not even identified the Koalas to the extent of their sex. This so called investigation is absolutely pathetic and shows the quality of how RSPCA inspectors carry out their duties. The N S W police have a branch now called the Rural Crime Unit these branches operated both in the city and country. They are staffed by sworn Police who have been fully trained in investigation techniques. Many of these Officers are fully trained Detectives. It would be my respectful submission that these officers should take over the compliance section of the R S P C A. Of course it would require extra staff and resources. It would be my suggestion that appropriate funding could be transferred from the funding the State Government gives to the R S P C A to the Police Budget. Another benefit of a transfer to Police is that all Police investigations are subject to review by independent authorities such as the Ombudsman or I C A C. This is not the case with R S P C A inspectors, they answer to no one other than themselves. On the 18th of February last I attended the local branch meeting of the R S P C A as the head of the organization Mr Steve Coleman was attending. During the course of the meeting he answered a number of questions re the Waterways incident. Mrs. Dodd asked him a question being, “who can I complain to”, Mr Coleman’s response was “the Chief Inspector of the RS S P C A”. From a community point of view in this day and age it is totally unacceptable that we have an organization such as this that when a complaint comes in they investigate themselves. The subject Koalas were living in a happy well cared for environment when they were illegally removed by Inspectors French and Prowse. One of the females had a baby Koala in her pouch that Mrs Small was aware of. I have been told that the R S P C A Inspectors became aware of this fact over the 48 hours following their removal. One of the other Koalas was an elderly female that Mrs Small has described as the “Old Lady”. Mrs Small has never denied that this Koala was elderly and whilst ever in good health could live out her days in the Koala Enclosure. Both these Koalas that were supposed to being cared for by Inspectors French and Prowse are now dead so I ask this question what investigation has the RSPCA done in relation to the deaths of these Koala or am I correct in assuming that when an animal dies because of the ignorance or lack of care by that inspector no investigation takes place. This is another example as to why the Police should take over these responsibilities so that when this type of incident occurs it can be properly investigated or reviewed by an appropriate authority. I referred earlier in this document to the fact that prior to my retirement I was the police Prosecutor for the Gunnedah Court Circuit. During the 1980’s and 1990’s and in some cases still to this day besides representing Police informants in Court Police prosecutors represent many other entities, for example, Probation and Parole, National Parks and Wildlife, D O C S, Roads and Traffic Authority and the RSPCA. Over the years until about 2000, every so often I would receive a brief from an RSPCA Inspector who would be the informant usually in more than one information. If the matter was a “not guilty” plea I would present the case on behalf of the informant. If the offence or offences were proved some costs would be sought by the Informant that would usually be for witness expenses and any fodder that may have been required to give to the animals in question. No Legal professional costs were ever sought. In addition a fact I feel is relevant is that Police Prosecutors DPP Prosecutors and Crown Prosecutors have a duty to place all the evidence before the Court. Each carries a custodial penalty of 2 years imprisonment. True there is a difference in the monetary penalty but goal is the most severe penalty for a Criminal Offence. A common assault is one where the victim suffers no serious injury. For some reason the Parliament does not view aggravated cruelty as a serious offence at law. The RSPCA since about 2000, to my knowledge, have been engaging private solicitors to conduct their prosecutions and one might ask why did they move to this system. It is my submission that this practice should cease and that Police Prosecutors should conduct the prosecutions for the RSPCA. I say that on this basis. By engaging private Solicitors or barristers there is no obligation on them to place before the Court evidence that may disadvantage their case. Legal and Professional Costs come into play. If their prosecution is successful they would ask for these costs. It seems unbelievable that recently in one of their prosecutions at Narrabri an amount in excess of a quarter of a million dollars was sought for costs in a matter heard in the Local Court, and as I said before, an offence not serious at law. In conclusion it is my humble opinion that inspectors French and Prowse have no knowledge in respect to their obligations under the Act and it is clear they see their careers more in the field of TV and to add insult to injury when asked a question by myself about the TV show RSPCA Animal Rescue and their role in this incident when he attended Gunnedah on the 18th February last, Mr Coleman’s explanation was and I quote, “the Officers had been on another job with them and when they said they were going to Gunnedah the crew said we might just tag along” end quote. I informed him that I did not accept that explanation at all. It’s a sad situation when the head of such an organization is trying to assist the coverup. Yours faithfully Leon Mills Councilor Gunnedah Shire Council even makes mention of the lady whose cattle were killed and may or has lost her home to the RSPCA Chairman's law firm at the time.

Yes, that is exactly my vets opinion. So I expect you know what he thinks of the intelligence of the Canine Controlling bodies. But then they are not making the rules for the benefit of the dogs, they are pandering to those they fear will cause them trouble if they dont please the animal libbers and those who consider their dogs to be fur babies. Seems and awful lot of the eticals dont talk much to the repro experts as they seem to always be prattling the dont breed em young n never more than once a year minimum. Yet even gynacologists are agast at how more dangerous it is for both mother and child the older a human mum is before she has her first child, same for the canines too, but hey, to not toe the popularist line is to be automatically "unethical" n thats darned dangerous isnt it fed properly most bitches are fat by the time they are next in heat, but the few that arent then obviously are asking for a break but we surely dont need blanket rules for all like we have now?

</b> or if the inspector believes on reasonable grounds that: it is necessary to exercise the power to prevent further physical injury or to prevent significant physical injury to the animal or to ensure that it is provided with veterinary treatment. Yes and there you have it. your child can die in your home and it cannot be entered or broken into by Doc's. Remember the case of the little boy stuffed into a suitcase and thrown into a dam by his own mother, Shillingsworth, Doc's had some half dozen calls the child was in danger, maybe the wrong people have been given the wrong piece of legislation? Yet these people have it all sewn up, when they want to that is. BUT they all to often can and do, choose to keep "their hands tied" as so many have seen with the "cant do anything, it has water and evidance of food". But let em "form the opinion" and your ass is grass, along with the life and well being of your animals as both those cattle and the koala's owners discovered, then they move faster than the storm troopers. Why does this happen? Pretty much many and varied, too many for us to figure, in my friend Marion's case, made the very bad mistakes of thinking she had any 'rights' whatever, worse, offended the Special Constable and ordered him to leave her property. He did along with ten of her 17 horses. Mine, re String , as the letter I finally received from the Dept of Ag, a fellow breeder, called in my chips to someone willing to "form the opinion".

It would generally have to be "reasonable belief" ie a belief based on some factual basis or on a report, not pulled out of thin air. "Saw a dog through a window. Could not see any water bowl. Therefore I believe the dog has no water. On this basis I entered the property and seized the dog to prevent an act of cruelty" That is a reasonable belief (within the intent of the act) Doesn't matter that there probably is a water bowl available. But because it can't be seen that is a reasonable belief it doesn't exist. Where does it say anywhere in the act that the reasonable belief must be based on some factual basis or report? As it is not mentioned there is no requirement. If a matter were to get to a court of law all the inspector would have to say is "I thought there was an act of cruelty that had occured, was happening or was about to happen." They would then be protected by the letter of the law. Where in the matter that Steve raises is there any basis of fact or a report. I also watched the RSPCA rescue with the inspector going into a house about a docked dog. There was no factual evidence that the dog was docked illegally or suffered any form of cruelty. The inspector seen the dog through a window with its curtains pulled open. That is a reasonable belief and thats all that is needed. Exactly there was an incident when a homeowner arrived back home to find his front door forced and his "dog" about to be seized. Except his 'dog' was a lifesize statue, the inspector had seen the 'dog' through the window. Apparently a complaint had been lodged there was an unregistered dog on the premisis and it was never allowed out of the house. In that case the home owner was left pretty offronted at the damage to the home but few seemed to realise te inplications of how that can affect anyone with an actual live pet left home alone. wonder where I might find the link?

This is a Stud Jersey Cow you could see at any show one day. If your jersy or any other bovine looks like this, if a Special Constable arrives and sees her, people in australia, have had their stock shot and charged with cruelty. A huge number of Special Constables know nothing of large livestock, horses or catte, let alone dairy breeds,all they have had is book learning. I made the mistake of mentioning lack of knowldege of livestock the different breeds has led to a number of innocent animals being slaughtered. Another reason for my acute nervousness at being inspected. I was asked had I ever seen the animals in question. I fount it is easy to google for the photos. The ones pictured on the net that I have seen are the same condition as cattle I have bid on and bought at the local cattle sales and they were not even shiny coated like the animals listed as having been submitted to the magistrate from the RSPCA files and the ones the family took the same day as well are available for viewing on the net of the animals both before and after they were shot. These are the reasons I am so afraid of being inspected, it is simply a matter of opinion of the Special Constable to form the opinion and you have no avenue of appeal. Even that stupid debarking law in Victoria hasnt been repealed yet. So anyone who lives in another state and has has ever bought a dog born in Victoria and had it debarked in your state, better not move to Victoria if you are still showing, because it is still law that a Victorian resident cannot show a dog born in Victoria and debarked in another state.

I think some of it is impacted by where you live and what breed you are in and what activities you do with your dogs. The RSPCA have no option but to investigate complaints. Thanks Steve. completly correct. so once they are at your property they inspect everything not only on your land but any other livestock you may have anywhere else. three properties down are 5 ponies, she asked do we own them in which case if the answer is yes , they too would be inspected and assessed. That is the law. I am amazed how little people know what will happen if the phone call is about them one day.