DzR Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Hi All, My pup was born July 1st, we have had her since a little after 8 weeks, she goes for her 3rd injection next week, and just wanted to know when she can safely be walked. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Daisy Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 I am happy to take my puppies out one week after their second vacc, but not to overpopulated doggy areas, like a dog park. I know some people say not till after the third but I want my dogs to have as many experiences in the outside world as possible when they are young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inevitablue Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 If it was my puppy, I'd already have it out and about. Just pick areas where dogs don't tend to congregate. My new pup is 10 weeks tomorrow. So far he has been for car rides to the local cafe, swimming in Botany Bay, out to watch my other dogs obedience lesson (on private land) and an afternoon at the mother in laws. He has also come to work with me. Small risk but with huge gains, getting them out young. Just be smart about it Post a photo :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 My pup is 13 weeks, had his vac on monday, im taking him to dog school on sunday and to swim at a lake next monday, to me its important he gets socialised and if there were diseases around my big dog and i would carry them home to him anyway unfortunatly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatsofatsoman Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Wait until you've had the last lot of shots then rule of thumb is 5mins for every month of age. The repetitive walking motion can cause hip and elbow problems. Free play - go for it. Walks be careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fox Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 If it was my puppy, I'd already have it out and about. Just pick areas where dogs don't tend to congregate. My new pup is 10 weeks tomorrow. So far he has been for car rides to the local cafe, swimming in Botany Bay, out to watch my other dogs obedience lesson (on private land) and an afternoon at the mother in laws. He has also come to work with me. Small risk but with huge gains, getting them out young. Just be smart about it Post a photo :D Agreed. I'll be taking my pup out from the first day she arrives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megan_ Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Wait until you've had the last lot of shots then rule of thumb is 5mins for every month of age. The repetitive walking motion can cause hip and elbow problems. Free play - go for it. Walks be careful. uh, a puppy needs to be out and about a *lot*. The critical socialisation period ends at 16 weeks, so you have a very short time to put in a lot of socialisation. If you wait for all their shots you will miss the boat. Sad reality is that parvo lives in the soil so even if your dog never steps foot outside your house you can walk it in. Risk of parvo vs risk of having a dog with lifetime issues that may include fear aggression due to under-socialisation - I know what I'd pick. This doesn't necessarily mean long walks though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Rusty Bucket Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 I organised lots of play dates with dogs I knew had been vaccinated for my puppy. I agree with the rule of thumb for the length of a dog walk - eg 5 mins per month of age is enough in one session so you don't need to go far. Dog schools usually require all the dogs there are vaccinated. But if it's on public land there is a risk of unvaccinated dogs being there. I would also consider places that are naturally cleaned every day, like the beach and show up just after high tide and walk on the damp bit. And I'd stay away from dog off lead areas - ie they can be wall to wall dog crap. Sporting venues that allow dogs on lead can be good. Your puppy would meet a lot of people that way and dog crap would be regularily cleaned up. It may also be worth chatting with your vet about locations / hot spots for disease outbreaks. Sometimes the outer city suburbs or lower value areas have outbreaks - maybe there is an overlap of people who live there with people who don't vaccinate/worm/flea treat their dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talien Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Go Go Pat The Puppy Stand Woo! :D (totally stolen from someone else, not sure who you were but the idea of this is getting me to the local lake precinct where everyone can "pat the puppy") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystiqview Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Your puppy also is at risk from lack of socialisation as from parvo or kennel cough. Controlled outings where your puppy can be socialised and lessen the risk of socialising with unknown vaccinated dogs are good. I would stay away from high doggy areas like off lead parks, beaches where there are a lot of dogs congregating. (If you are near a beach that is not heavily populated or go down there out of busy times, I would). You would not be walking your 8 week puppy for long walks anyway. But a short walk to the end of your street or around the block should be fine. Get your puppy enrolled into a puppy school. Talk to your friends who may have dogs and have puppy play dates and have people come over and get to "play" with your puppy. A well adjusted and socialised puppy is a more delight to own, and less likely to be put down later on due to temperament or mis-behaviours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bundyburger Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 I'm another who took mine out from the start. His first walk was the day after he came home, and that was to the vets for a checkup! He was carried 95% of the way but he got to see and experience *everything* and meet heaps of people. He went to puppy school and met other vaccinated dogs belonging to family members. He's a very well adjusted 2yo, and loves everyone and everything. He got walks to the end of the street and back every day too. He had a couple of rough fear periods, and i know if the early socialisation was different, i'd be dealing with a more difficult dog now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casima Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 My puppy comes home in 1 week (9 weeks old) and I intend to take him out and about for lots of socialisation from the start, I will try to avoid higher risk areas when possible until after his 2nd vacc tho and wont overdo the actual excercise. He will get to attend 2 agility trials the first weekend hes home, and 2 more the following weekend! and lots of trips to cafe's/schools/sports/shops/churchs/train station and whatever else I can think of after having 3 rescue dogs it will be so nice to have a well socialised dog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keira&Phoenix Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Just reiterating what everyone else has said. There critical socialisation period ends at 16 weeks old, you have to do AS much socialisation as you can get in during this time, that doesn't just mean people and dogs but different situations as well. The risk of your dog catching parvo/other diseases is well worth it when you know your dog will grow up to be steady and well behaved because of your efforts. And as others have pointed out, you can walk parvo and other diseases into your own home. Your dog is already bordering on 13 weeks old so you are running out of time, get out there now and get socialising. I am not sure what breed you have but it is even more important with some breeds. Also agree with the rule of thumg 5 minutes of walking for every month of age. Good luck. Pictures!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 In general, keep the puppy away from areas where you know dogs go and you don't know their vaccination history. Vaccinated dogs can still pick up and carry Parvo without being symptomatic - I would only be socialising the pup with dogs I know haven't been running around at dog parks on a regular basis - at least until 2 weeks after the 3rd puppy vacc. T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha bet Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 The following is now the accepted from the AVA (Australian Veterinary Association - This has come about because of the problems of overvaccinating - bitches used for breeding was recommended every two years during their breeding life. They also believe that vaccinations are not required after 11 years of age. Vaccination Guidelines For Small Animals The Vaccination Guideline Group of the World Small Animal Veterinary Association announced its international guidelines for canine and feline vaccinations at the WSAVA congress which was held in Sydney in August. The VGG categorised vaccinations into core vaccines, non-core vaccines and not recommended vaccines. DOGS Core vaccines: Parvovirus, Distemper and Adenovirus. Non-core vaccines: Parainfluenza, Bordetella and Leptospirosis The group does not recommend vaccination for giardia or coronavirus Vaccinate puppies at 8, 12 and 16 weeks with a booster 12months after the last vaccination. After that dogs should be vaccinated with core vaccines not more often than every 3 years. Annual vaccinations for Kennel Cough (Bordetella & Leptospirosis) for dogs that are in contact with other dogs are a good idea. CATS Core vaccines: Panleucopaenia (FPV or feline parvovirus) herpesvivus (FHV) and calicivirus (FCV). Non-core vaccines: Leukaemia virus (FeLV) and Chlamydia. The group does not recommend vaccination for feline immunodeficiency virus (FIV), Feline infectious peritonitis (FIV) or giardia. Vaccinate kittens at 8,12 and 16 weeks with a booster 12 months after the last vaccination. After that cats should be vaccinated with core vaccines not more often than every 3 years. The question of socialising - there is a great amount of research that indicates that pups should be out mixing from 8 weeks. However it is also worth considering whether the mother was vaccinated. Before 8 weeks of age there are still a large number of maternally derived antibodies (MDA) in the circulation from mum to protect the newborn. These natural immune proteins override the effect of the vaccine, so vaccination is wasted and will only add extra stress to an already overwhelmed puppy (being weaned, taken from mum, new owner, new home, new diet with worming and flea/tick treatment pesticide cascade). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystiqview Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 On a side note.... With the current vaccinations.. You don't need to do the third puppy shot at 16 weeks. A lot of vets still follow the old practice. But I would talk to your vet about it. 6 weeks: C3 12 Weeks, C4 + C5 (I do up the nose) 16 weeks C5 booster I have talked to the vets a number of times on this, and the drug companies who make the vaccines, actaully state on their leaflets the 16 week shot is not required. My vet who is normally conservative, is more than happy for the 6 week, 12 week, 12 month routine. then every two years, with Kennel cough annually. I have not done the 16 week booster now for quite a number of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 I gave my pup a c3 at 12 weeks, figured a C5 was nkt necessary as he had kennel cough at 5 weeks old so should have immunity to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris the Rebel Wolf Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 That's really interesting to read about, that some of you guys advocate leaving out the 16 week vaccination. I thought without that, the pup did not have 100% protection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windriver Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Wait until you've had the last lot of shots then rule of thumb is 5mins for every month of age. The repetitive walking motion can cause hip and elbow problems. Free play - go for it. Walks be careful. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elise+Hudson Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 We do not use the 16 week shot in the practice where I work, unless the pup is going into a known parvo infected yard, or is otherwise at a higher risk. All normal puppies, 12 week finish. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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