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I'm going to give a different perspective! My breed (Giant Schnauzers) over the last decade has seen 2 dominant dogs in the breed, who were shown at all the shows and picked up practically every CC going during that time, they would even turn up at shows without CC's if the group judge would be likely to give them yet another group (all for the race of who will be dog of the year or chasing the CC record). In this time we have gone from having 20 - 30 males being shown to now being lucky to get 5 turning up at most shows. I don't think it does a breed any good to have the same old winner brought out every weekend. It's not helping to encorage new people into the breed, it tends to put off more established exhibitors from keeping a dog of that sex and soon you find a breed struggling to find the next generation of stud dogs. Showing is about having the best dog on the day but I don't think that excludes other dogs worthy of having titles being present in that ring too but not being able to pick up the CCs to get that title.

any update yet? I'm hoping that the vet hasn't yet pts the dog, that he will decide the rescue group still own her.

It's much better to glue and ear for a couple of weeks then the alternative of the old terrier people who 'crack' the cartiledge on the adult dog. It is pretty obvious to see a dog that has had this done though.

a hernia infront of a front leg? that sounds odd

and I would love to see photos from it!!

ST - I think it is only 1 natural, successful breeding needed before the dog can be considered, this is for alive dogs. I wouldn't see using a dead sire as going backwards in a breed, sometimes a backstep can be useful to return a feature that may have been lost. Steve, surely as the pups are registered the 'new blood, import' would become a less favourable sire for furture litters?

I use a 7f summer or winter.

Buggar off out of a breed? I didn't say that. To me it is the same principle of starting to build a house and only having enough cash to do the foundations. Go into it knowing what you can afford and the rules you have to work within. It's no one elses fault if you can't afford the brickwork if you chose to do something outside of what you can afford.

not just last year, there is a whole back catalogue going back to the 80's!

I guess Australia doesn't have a monopoly on stupid rules. Why on earth would they make AI difficult if they want to increase genetic diversity? They also want both potential mates to have reproduced naturally before considering AI. eg they won't accept that the dog or bitch is 'not dog friendly' as a valid excuse to AI. The KC also don't approve of those mating frames used by some breeds. You could consider these rules as wanting to keep breeds with the ability to be able to breed naturally without the conformation and temperament of a breed preventing it. You don't need AI to increase genetic diversity. What do they think is wrong with AI? You don't NEED AI for diversity, but it sure helps, especially where a breed is rare and funds are limited. Say you were breeding a rare Japanese breed in the UK; there were only a few dogs to choose from, and the ones you like best are closely related to your girl (the equivalent situation is widespread in Australia, but we have to go through quarantine as well as international shipping). It would be a damn sight easier to import a few straws of semen than to find someone willing to sell a first rate dog and bring him over. And if you do bring over a top-rate dog and don't mind making him available, you're likely to suddenly find everyone using him . . . with bad consequences for diversity. If you had done AI you could use a dog who is so good the owner is unwilling to let him go . . . and if you didn't like the results, you could repeat the exercise with another dog. We could use 'Yogi' as an example of this, the Oz Vizsla who has been very well used at stud since he arrived here, so yes, if the caretaker of the dog has decided to let everyone use the dog, you will get a bottle neck in the breed. We have this too with Awesomes In The Mood, a p/s mini imported to the UK and is behind pretty much every p/s included in the 'reputable breeders' bloodlines. The UK sees dogs being sent to and from Japan, Dacs, Poodles, Mini Schnauzers etc etc. and there are a few breeders now of the Jindo. In my breed we do, like to share bloodlines. I've sent a dog abroad, I've been offered a few dogs on short term lease or longer stays under various terms. Adam, an american bred champion has spent time here and is now in australia. I have friends in Iceland who also have a month quarentine for any dog entering the country, they are doing well to bring in new blood and getting some quality dogs on loan, they are not relying on AI to do this for them. The very well known Bouvier Kanix Zulu was born in quarentine (before we had the pet passports) after his dam was sent abroad for mating. Various other breeds have chosen this option, I think top American cockers have also been produced after such a trip (maybe Ellz can recall their names). Breeds like mine have a bad reputation for AI being successful, so it could be an expensive waste of money anyway. If money is that tight, AI is the only option for breeding your chosen rare breed, maybe you should have looked at the choice of breed more closely before getting involved in breeding it?? I basically agree with that. Britian is a much smaller country, and it would, I think, be practical to travel your bitch to the sire. Yes? I've driven 600k to do a mating. And I think dogs should mate naturally, I certainly wouldn't be using a dog which is not "dog friendly" to produce pups. I suppose the rules do keep beeds with the ability to breed naturally. What would happen if you asked if you could AI for geographical reasons? Or some other "good" reason? Are you allowed to use dual sires? I don't know of anyone who has asked about a dual sire litter. For a geographical reason, it may be acceptable BUT you would have to prove why that dog was so much more desireable to use over more accessable dogs. There was a famous Golden Retriever litter born several years ago now, the sire had been dead for 20 years. Pups went on to do well in the ring, Camrose Goldies?? I think.

if you are awake at the right time! You can watch canine freestyle, agility and other main ring events, including group judging at www.dfscrufts.tv

We all must have a different definition of 'quite some fur' I'm another who would never use a 30 on the body, there is just no need. how often do you trim him?

Never pluck any deeper then you can see and always take care if the dog is likely to jump and the wrong moment. Did the vet say it was a problem or was he just making a passing comment?

I guess Australia doesn't have a monopoly on stupid rules. Why on earth would they make AI difficult if they want to increase genetic diversity? They also want both potential mates to have reproduced naturally before considering AI. eg they won't accept that the dog or bitch is 'not dog friendly' as a valid excuse to AI. The KC also don't approve of those mating frames used by some breeds. You could consider these rules as wanting to keep breeds with the ability to be able to breed naturally without the conformation and temperament of a breed preventing it. You don't need AI to increase genetic diversity.

btw why don't you join us in the schnauzer forum on here and share some photos of your dogs?

Yes, p/s does crop up in black/black breedings, it would also be possible for you to get white produced from such a mating along with the b/s. From what I understand, the p/s is the agouti gene and is in a different location then the black colour. A similar thing for the OP would be breeding 2 b/s dogs and getting white in the litter, even though we 'know' b/s is a recessive colour. Out of interest, does the p/s look like it will carry the b/s colour?

I would hope we are expected to do our own research on other things not covered by this database!

From a breeding perspective, closeness isn't a valid reason to use a dog, either. Are you saying you need permission to do a chilled or frozen semen AI in the UK . . . so if you wanted to use a dog in, say Northern Ireland and you lived in, say, Cornwall, you'd be expected to drive and do a natural mating? What if you want to use a Scandanavian or Canadian dog? Yes, you need to get permission, it can take 6 - 12 months to get this permission as it has to be discussed by comittee at the KC. I have a puppy here with a spanish sire, her breeder drove to spain to mate the dam. This is one of the uses we have for the Pet Passport scheme. Crufts BIS Ch Jafrak Phillip Olivier was born after his dam took a trip to France for mating (result was 3 pups) These health results are already available, the KC is currently adding to the database dogs from the 80's http://www.the-kennel-club.org.uk/services.../health/search/ the problem is sometimes with eg eye test results, the vets hold on to them until they have a large amount to send in, occasionally the results go missing and the owner has to email the results to the KC for them to be added, so the results you see aren't always the most up to date.

You don't need to trim at all the hair growing out of the ear canal! Leave it and put on some ear powder and pull it out, the extra length will make it easier to pull.

A 10 blade is all you need for the tummy, it's what I use on clients dogs and my show dogs. I very rarely use a 30 blade, even then it is only on the ears of a really thick coated mini.

to answer point 6, that would involve getting special permission from the Kennel Club before the breeding is done. Distance from a stud dog in the UK is not a valid reason to AI

I'd be giving her some quiet spot to look after her pup and keep the kids away from her for a week or so, so she can get on with her job without wondering what the kids are doing. Is she outside? Looks like it from the photos, inside settup would be better. Litters are often whelped in a breeders bedroom or spare room/office room and then when pup has opened eyes and started to walk around, moved to a more family orientated part of the house, so pup can get used to household happenings.

lol I thought you meant the bather bit you!! I only have one Laube blade and it is terrible, never stayed sharp or cut well but then I must get around to selling my hated Laube clippers too.

You cut the ear hair? is that what you meant by 'clip as far as you can see'? Doing this can cause a fur ball to form inside the ear canal.

I can't see vets making a note of the dogs registered name as well as the pet name, for any normal treatments, I was thinking it was more to do with eye screenings, hip scores etc. I do wonder what operations would need reporting.